http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playof...rry&id=2631335
Here's a great link from Jerry Crasnick (ESPN) on Detroit's approach to team-building.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playof...rry&id=2631335
Here's a great link from Jerry Crasnick (ESPN) on Detroit's approach to team-building.
Last edited by Rex Argos; 10-19-2006 at 03:09 PM.
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The same type of articles were written last year about the White Sox, who failed to make the playoffs this year. Making a run in one year is not nearly as impressive as what the Yankees, A's, Cardinals, Braves and Astros have done year after year in the 21st century, with some extending for over a decade of success. The one year wonders seem positioned to become the next model franchise, then next thing you know, they cannot even gain a wildcard birth the following year.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
I think with a good, young rotation they could be around for awhile. Verlander, Zumaya, Bonderman, and others look likely to have bright careers in front of them. Of course, we were saying the same thing about Wood and Prior not too long ago.
It seems that hitting is the commodity that can be replaced, you can mix and match. Many times it seems that you can catch lightning in a bottle with hitters that have career years.
So, the question is...will they be the Braves of the 90's, or the Angels of the recent past?
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On the heels of 12 straight losing seasons, it's a little early to be claiming sustained success.
That's almost Depression Era Browns and Phillies bad as far as continued losing.
Code:Detroit Tigers ---------------------------------- YEAR PLACE W L PCT GB 1994 5th 53 62 .461 18 1995 4th 60 84 .417 26 1996 5th 53 109 .327 39 1997 3rd 79 83 .488 19 1998 5th 65 97 .401 24 1999 3rd 69 92 .429 27.5 2000 3rd 79 83 .488 16 2001 4th 66 96 .407 25 2002 5th 55 106 .342 39 2003 5th 43 119 .265 47 2004 4th 72 90 .444 20 2005 4th 71 91 .438 28
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
The Tigers seem to resemble the 2005 White Sox. Manager given a lot of credit for motivation and pulling the right strings, very good rotation, hammer bullpen, and enough offense to get by. Of course, Ozzie is probably chewing on his crying towel at the thought of the Cardinals making the World Series when he is sitting at home.
Folks, the White Sox STILL won 90 games in the toughest division in all of MLB. If that's a one year wonder, keep the needle on the record.
There's just an assload of talent in the AL. Sometimes you're on the outside looking in. But winning 99 last year and 90 this year is the dictionary definition of staying successful.
And I have no doubt in my mind that the Cardinals would trade every last bit of the last six years for the White Sox' 2005.
Last edited by Falls City Beer; 10-19-2006 at 04:30 PM.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
"Reality tells us there are no guarantees. Except that some day Jon Lester will be on that list of 100-game winners." - Peter Gammons
"I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful
Yeah they adjusted. But great teams always do. I'm not saying that I know whether the White Sox will continue their successful run, I'm just saying that looking at longtime dynasties after the fact and comparing them to current teams is a little unfair, considering that those dynasties had to make the same adjustments over the years that the White Sox obviously made between 2005 and 2006. They surrendered 150 MORE runs, yet still they won 90 games--that says to me that their GM had some foresight and made some nice adjustments to pad that predicted spike in RA.
I have no idea if the White Sox success is sustainable, but they've sustained it over two years. And that's worth something.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
The White Sox's pitching staff also had a particularly bad year, far below what I would have expected of such a good staff -- they all seemed to happen on a bad year the same year. They've got the bulk of that pitching staff locked up for a few years and they have the money and talent to convince their two free agents to stay when the time does come around. I think that is a very solidly built team that has the potential to remain so for a few years minimum. I know that a lot of people don't agree with me but I think Kenny Williams is one of the better GMs out there right now.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
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