Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong
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"Booing on opening day is like telling grandma her house smells like old lady."--WOY
I haven't read the whole thread (off-season lazy mode), but I found it interesting that this dropping rating discussion is basically the same discussion some were having in the press box at Martinsville Speedway this weekend. And they were discussing NASCAR, not baseball.
NASCAR is down over 7% in viewers over last year and it's driving Mike Helton and the rest of NASCAR crazy. There's a simple reason for all of this. Folks are so busy they just aren't watching sports as much these days. Only the NFL is staying constant and that's a product of having a network telecast of your home team almost everywhere. The World Series is two teams with loyalties in two cities, both of which are not New York or Los Angeles. The mind wanders and you watch Boston Legal instead. If it were the Reds we'd all be watching, but it's not. The NFL is special because Cincinnati gets the Bengals on game day while New York gets the Giants. And the Super Bowl is a big spectacle that even non-sports fans watch for the commercials.
It's also a little bit of overkill. Baseball now has wild card teams involved inthe mix so the season goes on longer and casual fans get tired of us. Of course, we diehards are always watching. NASCAR now has the Chase which makes 32 drivers insignificant for the last ten races, so people lose interest. And the NFL is immune to all of this for some reason I cannot understand. I haven't watched an entire NFL game in ten years. And I won't in the future either.
"You only have to bat a thousand in two things; flying and heart transplants. Everything else you can go 4-for-5."
“I’m a normal guy blessed with the ability to hit a baseball.” - Sean Casey
Seems like I trot this out every year around this discussion but I'd like to see what the ratings are for WS Game 7's vs. Super Bowls. In a sense that's the only apple-apple comparison.
Still, I think what makes baseball great is the layering of contests -- between batter and pitcher, batter and fielder, pitcher and runner and fielder and runner. Today's game is focused solely on the first.
The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle
While I'm sure there is some natural fluctation in the ratings and that it does matter what the matchup is...the fact is that the biggest reason that ratings are down (and this goes for MNF as well) is the exponential increase in the number of channels on TV and then number of other entertainment venues (i.e. the internet). This has lead to the decline in ratings. These ratings are continually compared against either an impossible standard (the ratings of the 'just three networks' era) or a ridiculously high standard (the proto-cable era). D.GOOCH
It was a Sunday night and cold. First WS weekend night game and Bob Howsam was mad about it. Catfish Hunter vs. Jack Billingham. The Reds ran on Mickey Rivers all night. I was there and sat in the last row in CF under the scoreboard. Really lousy seats.
Pay attention to the open sky
Looks like the ratings for game 2 rebounded. And look at the little nugget at the end of the article.
World Series ratings hit record low for opener, rebound for Game 2
By RONALD BLUM, AP Baseball Writer
October 23, 2006
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Television ratings for the World Series hit a record low for the opener, then rebounded for Game 2.
The St. Louis Cardinals' 7-2 victory over the Detroit Tigers on Saturday night received an 8.0 fast national rating and 15 share, Fox said Monday, down 16 percent from the previous record low for an opener, a 9.5 for last year's 5-3 Chicago White Sox win over the Houston Astros.
Detroit's 3-1 victory in Game 2 on Sunday night got an 11.5/18, up 4 percent from the 11.1 rating for Chicago's 7-6 win in the second game last year.
Overall, that left the first two games averaging a record-low 9.8, down 5 percent from the previous bottom, a 10.3 for the first two games last year.
Fox's 6.5 average rating for the league championship series was down 4 percent from last year's 6.8.
On each of the first two nights of the World Series, Fox won prime time. The Game 1 rating was the highest for Saturday night on any network since the NCAA basketball semifinals on April 1 on CBS. Game 2 was the highest-rated Sunday night on Fox since the NFC Championship on Jan. 22.
Fox finished second in prime time last week for the first time this season, 0.1 behind ABC.
The national rating is the percentage of U.S. television households tuned to a program, and each point represents 1,114,000 homes. The share is the percentage of households watching a broadcast among those homes with televisions in use at the time.
Game 1 got a 41.0 rating in St. Louis and a 32.5 in Detroit, while Game 2 received a 47.5 rating in St. Louis and a 42.9 in Detroit.
Because of perennially low ratings for all Saturday night programming, baseball and Fox are switching the start of the World Series to Tuesday beginning next year.
The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.
By 2010, Games 1-3 of the World Series will be available via Podcast only.Because of perennially low ratings for all Saturday night programming, baseball and Fox are switching the start of the World Series to Tuesday beginning next year.
By 2015, the entire World Series will be played on a remote island and shown at a later date. Teams will sign confidentiality agreements and agree not to reveal the outcome until after the broadcast. "Story editors" will sort through hours of raw footage and add drama, comedy, and a touch of heart to the condensed, 1-hour broadcast versions of the games.
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Aside from the aforementioned problem that ESPN and Fox do absolutely nothing during the season to create nationwide interest in Baseball beyond Boston and New York, I have two problems with the MLB playoffs:
1. The added tier of playoffs in the Wildcard era stretches out the season too far into football season. This is the same problem with the NBA and the NHL. You have to wrap that season up before the sports-consuming public consciousness gets too far into the next sport's season. The World Series should be done by mid-October. Whether that means starting the season in March, cutting regular-season games, or scheduling more weekend doubleheaders, I don't know.
2. Cut the length of the games. The easiest, and most unpopular method with advertisers, is cutting commercial time between innings. There is way too much time between each half inning, which means way too much time to change the channel. I propose having breaks of different length between innings. You could shorten the amount of time between most innings, but then lengthen them after the 3rd and 6th innnings, almost like haltime or periods in other sports.
Burn down the disco. Hang the blessed DJ. Because the music that he constantly plays, it says nothing to me about my life.
Outside the two principle cities, this Series is a total yawner other than Kenny-gate and the late innings last night. Little intrigue and the Cards might be the most boring and stale WS team ever for personalities and excitement. The level of baseball being played so far seems more like April then nail riveting October performances.
The cold and lousy weather is another factor. I can't get excited about watching a bunch of bundled up fans/playerrs on a rainy 38 degree night near Nov 1st -- seems to impact the game too much.
I've watched much less of the WS this year than ever before.