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    "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    scrap·py (skrp)
    adj. scrap·pi·er, scrap·pi·est
    1. Quarrelsome; contentious.
    2. Full of fighting spirit.


    One of the most long running love affairs in Baseball is the love usually showered on the "Scrappy" player. We all know who they are, where they come from (usually nowhere) and what they do to get our attention (chances are it involves speed or hustle). Currently pushing the envelope of scrappy is the Reds own Ryan Freel.

    Most of these players tend to be on the small side, that in itself lends a me against the rest of the world air to their approach to the game, and since most fans aren't players they appreciate this effort to the point of unending adoration or the assumption that every player despite their skill level, age or health should attempt to play like the "scrappy" guy does. Scrappy players often are tagged with nicknames that exemplify their playing style.

    Chances are the scrappy player will be loved everywhere, more likely he will be adored in the areas of the country that cling to old school values and the hard back of the working man... or at least the myth of his continued existence.

    Of course that pretty much pigeon holes the Mid-West as an area that welcomes the scrappy players to their fold with open arms and hearty pats on the back, and nowhere does this seem to happen more than in Cincinnati.

    How important is the illusion of hustle and scrappy behavior?

    Pretty important if you take Warren Giles word for it in this 1945 Sporting News article


    Pretty much lays the groundwork for what your granddad expected to see on the diamond and what your dad grew up hearing what should be. But what makes a Scrappy player?

    Aside from not being star most scrappy players are often, young and unknown or diminutive to the point that the patrons are amazed that they can compete against the bigger boys. The Reds history of course goes far back to the 19th century and it is there that we can find the scrappy player making his first appearance for the Reds, and it's there that we start our journey.



    ARLIE LATHAM
    Special Skill Set (Agitator)
    HEIGHT: 5'8"
    WEIGHT: 150

    If 19th century Ball had a dictionary chances are good that Latham would be listed under scrappy.

    A man of first, it was Arlie's roaming of the baselines during his teams at bats that drew the fans to the park as he berated the opposition loudly, eventually the league created the coaches box to herd Latham's active voice away from the batters box and give piece to the umpire. Known as "The Freshest Man on Earth" Arlie was the first ballplayer to go to the stage as well as the first fulltime coach (NY Giants 1907)

    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Worked into his 80's in the Giants Press Box at the Polo Grounds.

    Code:
    YEAR        SB    AVG   SLG   OBA   OPS
    1890        20   .250  .311  .346  .657
    1891        87   .272  .386  .372  .759
    1892        66   .238  .283  .310  .593
    1893        57   .282  .350  .368  .718
    1894        59   .313  .403  .393  .796
    1895        48   .311  .380  .375  .755
    ============================= 
    TOTAL       337  .279  .355  .361  .715
    POS         159  .280  .382  .353  .735
    LEAGUE      163  .269  .365  .347  .712


    DUMMY HOY
    HEIGHT: 5'6"
    WEIGHT: 160
    Special Skill Set (Speed)

    Towards the end of Arlie's tenure as a Red another player emerged as the scrappy player that received the fans adulation. William "Dummy" Hoy at 5'4" was along with Miller Huggins the smallest of the scrappy Reds. A centerfielder, who was completely deaf and mute Hoy was known for his speed and the area he cover in League Park. Being deaf in an era that labeled such men as "Dummy's" automatically lifts Hoy's scrappy factor. His journey through the game found him playing in four separate leagues (AA, NL, PL, AL) and eventually settling in Cincinnati where he was a member of the fraternal organization "The Ballplayers of Yesterday."

    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Threw out the first pitch of Game Three of the 1961 World Series in Cincinnati at age of 99.

    Code:
    YEAR        SB     AVG   SLG   OBA   OPS
    1894        27    .299  .426  .416  .842
    1895        50    .277  .403  .363  .767
    1896        50    .298  .409  .403  .812
    1897        37    .292  .376  .375  .751
    1902        11    .290  .380  .389  .769
    ============================== 
    TOTAL        175   .292  .400  .390  .790
    POS          120   .299  .401  .364  .766
    LEAGUE       174   .316  .422  .390  .811


    MILLER HUGGINS
    HEIGHT: 5'6"
    WEIGHT: 140
    Special Skill Set (Walks)

    Huggins was small, so very small and slight that it pretty much becomes the persona that you are always seeing when is name is mentioned, especially when pictured aside the big bopper Ruth himself. But one thing is for sure Huggins was a local hero long before Pete Rose was ever heard of. "He's gonna make everyone forget they ever heard of Bid McPhee." Joe Kelley on Miller Huggins. Not quite, but still a legend for his ability to take a walk in an era that didn't produce many Huggins was lauded for his style of play by the local fans and was affectionately known as "Little Everywhere"

    Code:
    YEAR        SB   BB   AVG   SLG   OBA   OPS
    1904        13   88  .263  .328  .377  .705
    1905        27   103 .273  .326  .392  .718
    1906        41   71  .292  .338  .376  .714
    1907        28   83  .248  .289  .346  .635
    1908        30   58  .239  .287  .321  .608
    1909        11   28  .214  .245  .335  .580
    =================================
    TOTAL        150  431 .260  .310  .362  .672
    POS         113  233 .255  .328  .318  .646
    LEA           116  258 .248  .309  .318  .627
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Managed the great Yankee teams in the 20's and got dangled off the back of a train by Babe Ruth.



    HANS LOBERT
    HEIGHT: 5'9"
    WEIGHT: 170
    Special Skill Set (Fast)

    "Hans" received his name because he looked like Honus Wagner; it was Wagner himself who gave Hans his nickname during a brief stint with the Pirates. Known as the fastest man in baseball Hans is famous for racing a horse in Oxnard, California in 1913 (he lost) As a Reds he manned 3 positions and was involved in a big trade with the Philles a team that he remained involved with off and on for the rest of his life.

    Code:
    YEAR       AVG    SLG   OBA   OPS
    1906        .310  .366  .366  .732
    1907        .246  .313  .299  .612
    1908        .293  .407  .348  .755
    1909        .212  .294  .304  .598
    1910        .309  .395  .369  .764
    ========================== 
    TOTAL       .269  .353  .332  .685
    POS         .252  .325  .319  .644
    LEA         .247  .314  .314  .629
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Managed the misrable 1942 Phillies and tried to instill a "small ball" fast type of game, the type that was "his type" of game back in the day. The Phillies also attempted to accent the fast factor by calling the team the "Phils" instead of Phillies.



    HEINE GROH
    HEIGHT: 5'8"
    WEIGHT: 158
    Special Skill Set (Run Producer)

    One of the caveats of being scrappy is that you usually aren't applying that label to stars of the game, however there are always a few guys that are stars and so scrappy that you have give them their due. Early in the Reds history Heine Groh would be that man, A star 3rd baseman and unique hitter Groh was a man that hit doubles, could take a walk and fielded his position flawlessly with a glove as big as his hand he finished his career with a fielding percentage a shade behind renowned glove man Brooks Robinsons. With his oddly shaped bat Groh would face the pitcher with both feet pointing at the box, punching at the ball and applying the hit em where they ain't theory Groh etched his figure into the mind of Reds fans and helped bring them their first championship as well. That's scrappy gold; you can get free drinks on that for the rest of your life.

    Code:
    YEAR  R    AVG   SLG   OBA   OPS
    1913  51  .282  .378  .351  .729
    1914  59  .288  .358  .391  .749
    1915  72  .290  .390  .354  .745
    1916  85  .269  .374  .370  .744
    1917  91  .304  .411  .385  .796
    1918  88  .320  .396  .395  .791
    1919  79  .310  .431  .392  .823
    1920  86  .298  .393  .375  .768
    1921  54  .331  .417  .398  .815
    ========================== 
    TOTAL 665 .298  .394  .378  .772
    POS   503 .265  .353  .324  .677
    LEAGUE513 .265  .344  .325  .670
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Worked at the cashier window at River Downs (Race Track in Cincinnati) until his 80's



    CUCKOO CHRISTENSEN
    HEIGHT: 5'6"
    WEIGHT: 156
    Special Skill Set (Entertainer)

    Part of the scrappy lore always involves a player that comes from nowhere (or having a nickname like, Cuckoo or Bubba).

    Cuckoo Christensen is the epitome of that type of player. Bought from St. Paul in 1926 Christensen immediately grabbed the fans attention with acrobatic somersaults in the outfield and the habit of hanging near the stands and talking to the fans, grabbing there hearts all the while fooling the Reds enough to have them trade Edd Roush and hand the CF job to Christensen... who failed horribly ad disappeared from the game faster than you can say Mike Frank.

    Code:
    YEAR  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    1926  .350  .438  .426  .864
    1927  .254  .286  .330  .617
    ====================== 
    TOTAL .315  .383  .392  .775
    POS   .288  .399  .348  .747
    LEAGUE.297  .411  .355  .766
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Played nine years of Minor league ball after failing in 1927.



    CHUCK DRESSEN
    HEIGHT: 5'5"
    WEIGHT: 146
    Special Skill Set (Throwback)

    Before Cuckoo and after Cuckoo the Reds had some smaller players that might have been seen as the "scrappy type" but something about them often couldn't get the fans complete adulation, For Hughie Critz it was his educated background, and the fact that he was darn good all the time, for Charlie Dressen it was his lack of skill, but it's the scrappy Charlie Dressen as manager that gets him into the Reds Scrappy Hall of Fame.

    Taking the reigns of the team in the midst of the great Depression rebuild Dressen focused on "small ball" and aggressive baseball. His 1937 team was called "The Roughhouse Reds" and after the failure of that concept was clear Dressen was the ex-manager of the Reds.

    Code:
    1935  6th     68   85  .444   31.5
    1936  5th     74   80  .481   18
    1937  8th     56   98  .364   40
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Managed the Dodger team that blew the 13 game lead in 1951.



    ROCKY BRIDGES
    HEIGHT: 5'8"
    WEIGHT: 170
    Special Skill Set (Funny Guy)

    February 16, 1953
    Received cash from Philadelphia Phillies as part of 4-team trade in which Philadelphia Phillies sent cash to Milwaukee Braves; Philadelphia Phillies sent Russ Meyer to Brooklyn Dodgers; Milwaukee Braves sent Earl Torgeson to Philadelphia Phillies; Brooklyn Dodgers sent Rocky Bridges to Cincinnati Reds; Brooklyn Dodgers sent Jim Pendleton to Milwaukee Braves; and Cincinnati Reds sent Joe Adcock to Milwaukee Braves.
    Sometimes a scrappy guy is the guy a team looks to obtain in hope of transferring said scrappiness to the team as a whole... this football think might work in the coal field leagues but rarely does it work in major league baseball. The trade above made by Gabe Paul sent a man who would hit 305 more home runs for a man who would be best known for his huge chaw and funny quotes:

    "It's a good thing I stayed in Cincinnati for four years -- It took me that long to learn how to spell it." - Rocky Bridges
    "Coaching third with a pitcher on base is like being a member of a bomb disposal squad. The thing could blow up in your face at any moment." - Rocky Bridges
    Code:
    YEAR        AVG    SLG  OBA   OPS
    1953        .227  .273  .288  .561
    1954        .231  .250  .322  .572
    1955        .286  .327  .341  .668
    1956        .211  .211  .348  .558
    1957        .000  .000  .500  .500
    ========================== 
    TOTAL        .241  .283  .306  .589
    POS          .272  .425  .343  .768
    LEAGUE       .265  .393  .337  .730
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat – Became Humorist.



    PETE ROSE
    HEIGHT: 5'11"
    WEIGHT: 192
    Special Skill Set (Hit Machine, Versatile)

    No discussion of scrappy and the Reds can avoid the Hit King, despite the general rule of scrappy = unknown and scrappy = small we have to believe that Pete Rose or “Charlie Hustle” to you scrappy nickname folks belongs at the top of the list. Whether he running to first or the track after the game Rose was always on the move and his longevity and abilities hoisted him to legend status in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s There will only be one Charlie Hustle in the scrappy hall of fame and we’ll even let him in despite his past discretions.

    Code:
    AVG   SLG   OBA   OPS
    TOTALS          .303  .409  .375  .784
    LG AVERAGE      .262  .386  .328  .714
    POS AVERAGE     .269  .399  .336  .735
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat – Let’s just move on.



    CHRIS SABO
    HEIGHT: 5'11"
    WEIGHT: 185
    Special Skill Set (Power)

    Spuds, or Sabs as he was often referred to was a reckless base runner a goggled spaz in an era of fast turf ball and on a team that the Fans in Cincinnati still long for. Sabo first makes the scene in the baseball world when Gene Bennett in Dollar Sign On the Muscle, mentions him. His next appearance is when he stole the 3rd base Job from Buddy Bell under the watchful eye of King Scrappy himself Pete Rose in 1988. He finished his career with the Reds almost a decade later in the shadow of a corked bat incident and years of injuries.

    Code:
    YEAR   AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    1988  .271  .414  .314  .728
    1989  .260  .395  .316  .711
    1990  .270  .476  .343  .819
    1991  .301  .505  .354  .859
    1992  .244  .422  .302  .723
    1993  .259  .440  .315  .755
    1996  .256  .400  .354  .754
    ====================== 
    TOTAL .270  .447  .328  .775
    POS   .261  .391  .327  .719
    LEAGUE.261  .403  .323  .726
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat – Managed in the Reds system



    CHRIS STYNES
    HEIGHT: 5'9"
    WEIGHT: 175
    Special Skillset (Still Wondering)

    The 1997 trade that brought Chris Stynes and Jon Nunnely was an infusion of pure scrappiness as Stynes took the Reds fans hearts right away with a powerful 200 at bats in a season that had been a major disappointment through and through. The following year the pair would prove to be equally disappointing and by the 2001 season both were gone. But it was Stynes who teased the Reds with his ability to play multiple positions poorly and his streaky BA driven lines in part time roles often enticed the manager to slot him in starting roles where he never failed to fail.

    Best know in retrospect as being scrappy without a nickname, nor was he a loveable scrappy guy, having left a reputation around the game as being somewhat “Grumpy.”

    Code:
    YEAR  AVG    SLG   OBA   OPS
    1997  .348  .485  .394  .879
    1998  .254  .340  .323  .663
    1999  .239  .301  .310  .610
    2000  .334  .497  .386  .883
    ======================= 
    TOTAL .300  .421  .358  .779
    POS   .272  .434  .345  .780
    LEAGUE.267  .433  .340  .773
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat – Last seen in Minor league ball


    RYAN FREEL
    HEIGHT: 5'10"
    WEIGHT: 185
    Special Skillset - Speed

    Code:
    CAREER GAMES BY POSITION:  
    2B: 94  3B: 81  LF: 56  CF: 134  RF: 101  
    ====================================================
    YEAR TEAM         AGE SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    2001 Blue Jays    25   2   1  .273  .318  .333  .652 
    2003 Reds         27   9   4  .285  .431  .344  .775 
    2004 Reds         28  37  10  .277  .368  .375  .743 
    2005 Reds         29  36  10  .271  .371  .371  .743 
    2006 Reds         30  37  11  .271  .399  .363  .762 
    ====================================================
         TOTALS          121  36  .274  .383  .367  .751 
         LG AVERAGE       25  10  .270  .435  .341  .777 
         POS AVERAGE      36  13  .271  .429  .338  .767 
    ====================================================
    Part of being unique in the world of scrappy is the Jim Gilliam method, versatility. It worked for Tony Phillips and it certainly is working for Ryan Freel.

    Code:
    SECOND BASE
    YEAR TEAM         AGE  G     PO    A    E   DP  PCT   RANGE
    2003 Reds         27   11    14   20    1    2  .971   3.09 
    2004 Reds         28   15    25   23    0    4 1.000   3.20 
    2005 Reds         29   48    91  127    6   24  .973   4.54 
    2006 Reds         30   13    23   25    1    2  .980   3.69 
         TOTALS            94   164  215    9   36  .977   4.03 
    
    THIRD BASE
    YEAR TEAM         AGE  G     PO    A    E   DP  PCT   RANGE
    2003 Reds         27    2     0    2    0    2 1.000   1.00 
    2004 Reds         28   56    42  107   12   11  .925   2.66 
    2005 Reds         29   10     5   25    2    1  .938   3.00 
    2006 Reds         30   13     7   25    0    2 1.000   2.46 
         TOTALS            81    54  159   14   16  .938   2.63 
    
    OUTFIELDER
    YEAR TEAM         AGE  G     PO    A    E   DP  PCT   RANGE
    2003 Reds         27   24    58    2    0    0 1.000   2.50 
    2004 Reds         28   89   184    8    3    1  .985   2.16 
    2005 Reds         29   51   109    7    0    0 1.000   2.27 
    2006 Reds         30  105   238   12    5    1  .980   2.38 
         TOTALS           270   589   29    8    2  .987   2.29
    Since he was plucked off the waiver wire in 2002 Freel has been a the speed man for the Reds, compiling 3 straight seasons of 35 steals plus, which in modern Reds history is quite the feat.

    Code:
    STOLEN BASES >= 35
    
    1    Joe Morgan               1972-77    6   
    2    Bob Bescher              1909-13    5   
    T3   Mike Mitchell            1909-11    3   
    T3   Dick Egan                1909-11    3   
    T3   Gary Redus               1983-85    3   
    T3   Eric Davis               1986-88    3   
    T3   Ryan Freel               2004-06    3   
    T8   Armando Marsans          1912-13    2   
    T8   Buck Herzog              1914-15    2   
    T8   Barry Larkin             1995-96    2
    One has to think that Freels arrival had a little to do with the Reds quick dump of Todd Walker a few weeks after his signing, perhaps in the back of Bowdens mind Freel was the future at second base (and apparently he still is to some folks who follow the Reds).

    One thing's for sure is Ryan Freel is the embodiment of the Reds history of scrappy players, he is tough and relentless plus his emergence from nowhere is classic baseball mythos and helped him grab the Reds fanbases adoration with superb defensive plays and speed on the bases. There is nothing like a vertical streach on the warning track to get the fans blood boiling, and you can pretty much count on guys like Freel being signed because of they do stuff like this all the time.

    Scrappy baseball will never fully disappear from the game, it will continue to grab bottom roster spots, fuel hyperbole about "playing the game right" and it will continue to surprise and disappoint baseball executives, managers and fans. Because scrappy is something that can't be put in a jar and applied when needed, it pours out of the player like water over a dam and sometimes the mess is as noticable as the success.

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    Fantastic stuff, as usual.

    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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    I admire the guys who get the most out of what the good Lord gave them, study the game, and do whatever it takes to stay there. If you could somehow transplant that attitude and desire into the most talented, you definitely would have something.
    Talent is God Given: be humble.
    Fame is man given: be thankful.
    Conceit is self given: be careful.

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    And, again, great post, westofyou!
    Talent is God Given: be humble.
    Fame is man given: be thankful.
    Conceit is self given: be careful.

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    Outstanding, very nice

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    So our "Power of Tradition" is scrappy?

    Maybe he doesn't quite fit the mold, but wasn't Bip Roberts scrappy?

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Maybe he doesn't quite fit the mold, but wasn't Bip Roberts scrappy?
    Or Donny Sadler?
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Great stuff WoY.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post


    HEINE GROH
    HEIGHT: 5'8"
    WEIGHT: 158
    Special Skill Set (Run Producer)

    One of the caveats of being scrappy is that you usually aren't applying that label to stars of the game, however there are always a few guys that are stars and so scrappy that you have give them their due. Early in the Reds history Heine Groh would be that man, A star 3rd baseman and unique hitter Groh was a man that hit doubles, could take a walk and fielded his position flawlessly with a glove as big as his hand he finished his career with a fielding percentage a shade behind renowned glove man Brooks Robinsons. With his oddly shaped bat Groh would face the pitcher with both feet pointing at the box, punching at the ball and applying the hit em where they ain't theory Groh etched his figure into the mind of Reds fans and helped bring them their first championship as well. That's scrappy gold; you can get free drinks on that for the rest of your life.

    Code:
    YEAR  R    AVG   SLG   OBA   OPS
    1913  51  .282  .378  .351  .729
    1914  59  .288  .358  .391  .749
    1915  72  .290  .390  .354  .745
    1916  85  .269  .374  .370  .744
    1917  91  .304  .411  .385  .796
    1918  88  .320  .396  .395  .791
    1919  79  .310  .431  .392  .823
    1920  86  .298  .393  .375  .768
    1921  54  .331  .417  .398  .815
    ========================== 
    TOTAL 665 .298  .394  .378  .772
    POS   503 .265  .353  .324  .677
    LEAGUE513 .265  .344  .325  .670
    Post-Career Scrappy Feat - Worked at the cashier window at River Downs (Race Track in Cincinnati) until his 80's.
    Great stuff, woy.

    I had to highlight your Heinie Groh section since I believe that Groh should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame. He's one of the most underrated third basemen in the history of the game, and he may be one of the most underrated players altogether in the history of the game.

    His best seasons were in a terrible era for run scoring and in a pitcher's park, and two of his top seasons (1918 and 1919) were shortened due to WWI, lessening their perceived impact on his peak value. Putting his numbers into context and giving him minor war credit for those two top seasons, I definitely believe he rates up there among the top dozen or so third basemen ever.

    Ya gotta love that bat too:

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    Thanks for a great read, woy!
    Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    So our "Power of Tradition" is scrappy?

    Maybe he doesn't quite fit the mold, but wasn't Bip Roberts scrappy?
    Bip was scrappy, but his stay in Cincinnati was short and eclipsed at the time by Sabo, who was extraordinary scrappy, and had been endorsed by the king himself Pete Rose.

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland View Post
    Or Donny Sadler?
    Nah, Donny was just "bad".
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    Nah, Donny was just "bad".
    How bad?

    Bad enough that he caused his departure from Boston by having a fling with Troy O'Leary's wife.

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Let me know when you find a black player who has the sobriquet of "scrappy"

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    Re: "Scrappy" A Baseball State of Being

    Quote Originally Posted by redsupport View Post
    Let me know when you find a black player who has the sobriquet of "scrappy"
    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Bip was scrappy, but his stay in Cincinnati was short and eclipsed at the time by Sabo, who was extraordinary scrappy, and had been endorsed by the king himself Pete Rose.
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