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    Webb wins Cy Young

    According to cbssportsline.com
    Brandon Webb has won the NL Cy Young Award


    NEW YORK -- Brandon Webb of the Arizona Diamondbacks won a wide-open race for the NL Cy Young Award, beating out San Diego closer Trevor Hoffman on Tuesday.

    One of six pitchers who tied for the league lead with a pedestrian total of 16 wins, Webb received 15 of 32 first-place votes and 103 points in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Hoffman, who broke the career saves record last season, got 12 first-place votes and 77 points.

    St. Louis Cardinals ace Chris Carpenter, the 2005 Cy Young Award winner, finished third with two first-place votes and 63 points.

    Houston's Roy Oswalt, who led the NL with a 2.98 ERA, got the other three first-place selections and came in fourth.

    Webb, who went 16-8 with a 3.10 ERA, was listed second on seven ballots and third on seven others. No pitcher was included on every entry.
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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Good for him. Couldn't agree more.

    Not bad for the small town Kentucky kid.
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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    He wasn't even being discussed this morning by the pundits. All the talk was about Carpenter and Hoffman.
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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Wow, though he lost it after that rough September. Carpenter would've won it if he hadn't won last year, IMO. Still, well deserved. Guess Oswalt is next.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Not even a single vote for Harang. What a joke. I didn't expect him to win, but he deserved some recognition.

    Here's the final vote tally (link):

    Brandon Webb (103)
    Trevor Hoffman (77)
    Chris Carpenter (63)
    Roy Oswalt (31)
    Carlos Zambrano (6)
    Billy Wagner (4)
    John Smoltz (3)
    Takashi Saito (1)

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    No votes for Arroyo or Harang... they certainly shouldn't have won. But wow.

    Why in God's name was Hoffman so high? It's not a career achievement award... If you want a reliever -- give it to Saito.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Saito gets a vote, but not Arroyo or Harang?

    Must have been an LA writer.
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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Aaron Harang is the most underrated SP in the National League.

    A closer look at Aaron's season stats.

    tied for 1st in wins.
    1st in strikeouts.
    3rd in IP.
    6 more walks than Webb.

    You could make the argument that Harang was easily as good as Webb this past season. In a lot of areas he was better.

    This isn't a homer post. I'm not saying Webb didn't deserve the award. But NO votes for Harang?

    NJReds is right. that's a complete joke.
    11th in ERA.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    I honestly think that most voters look at 4 things: Wins, Saves, ERA, Reputation. That's it.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Did Joe Mays receive any support?

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post

    Why in God's name was Hoffman so high? It's not a career achievement award... If you want a reliever -- give it to Saito.
    Hoffman actually pitched better than his career norms.

    2.14 era, 46/51 saves, 63 ip, 48 h, 50 k

    But I agree Saito should have been much closer than TH.

    Saito:

    2.07, 24/26 saves, 78.1 ip, 48 h (same as TH but 15 more innings), 107 k's (rate much higher than TH)

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Who votes on this crap? Baseball awards are so screwed up. Hoffman at #2? He wasn't even the best reliever.

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Wagner and Saito got votes and Harang didn't? Seriously?

    Geez...

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    Re: Webb wins Cy Young

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Aaron Harang is the most underrated SP in the National League.

    A closer look at Aaron's season stats.

    tied for 1st in wins.
    1st in strikeouts.
    3rd in IP.
    6 more walks than Webb.

    You could make the argument that Harang was easily as good as Webb this past season. In a lot of areas he was better.

    This isn't a homer post. I'm not saying Webb didn't deserve the award. But NO votes for Harang?

    NJReds is right. that's a complete joke.
    11th in ERA.
    Harang's ERA was just a little too high but he did deserve some consideration. And I'll say it, Webb didn't deserve the award. Oswalt or Carpenter did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handofdeath View Post
    Harang's ERA was just a little too high but he did deserve some consideration. And I'll say it, Webb didn't deserve the award. Oswalt or Carpenter did.

    Would you care to explain why you think Webb didn't deserve the award? He was the most deserving IMO.


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