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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Unfortunatly, hypocracy can be found on all of the news outlets no matter what political bent they may have or be alleged to have.
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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

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    registerthis- no worries. FOX could be clubbing baby seals live on the air and, you know, if you don't like it, don't watch it!
    The "don't watch it" argument seems to work just fine when used toward someone who is considered "religious" or a "moral conservative." Been told that a number of times. If I don't like soft core porn or hear expletives on the public airwaves, then I just don't need to watch it. I wonder why it doesn't work going the other direction? Who are you to tell someone that airing programs and watching the clubbing of baby seals is wrong? Isn't that telling certain people how to live their lives according to your own personal moral imperatives that everyone in the world might not share? Just wondering

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    Not to serve as propaganda to push the sales of the murderer's book, which is essentially nothing more than making jabs at the victim's families, they don't.

    And, FWIW, no all news channels do NOT behave this way. NBC, for example, turned down this "opportunity." Perhaps the producers went to Fox because they knew that Fox would accept it?
    Then do tell why they do air such things? What altruistic reason is there for such programming? It's fine if you don't like FOX airing such a thing, but your personal bias against the network is showing pretty clearly.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    Not to serve as propaganda to push the sales of the murderer's book, which is essentially nothing more than making jabs at the victim's families, they don't.

    And, FWIW, no all news channels do NOT behave this way. NBC, for example, turned down this "opportunity." Perhaps the producers went to Fox because they knew that Fox would accept it?
    So it's okay to take John Mark Karr to an elementary school as long as he's not promoting a book?

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    Wow...worth the watch. Stewart lays it out there....and I don't think Begallia or Carlson were too thrilled about it. A nice shot about Tucker's tie, by the way.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Then do tell why they do air such things?
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    What altruistic reason is there for such programming? It's fine if you don't like FOX airing such a thing, but your personal bias against the network is showing pretty clearly.
    Oh, I severely dislike Faux News. I've got a pretty substantial bias against the network, and I find the irony here highly amusing, even if the subject matter of the show in question most certainly is not.

    But, sure, all of the news networks do this--like Eugene Robinson says, I'm just waiting for CBS to air Robert Blake's tell-all interview, "How I Would've Shot My Wife in the Head." I heard that it's coming in March.
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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    And, FWIW, no all news channels do NOT behave this way. NBC, for example, turned down this "opportunity." Perhaps the producers went to Fox because they knew that Fox would accept it?
    No, NBC only rigs the results of tests to achieve a certian result. From wikipedia....

    In 1993, Dateline NBC broadcast an investigative report about the safety of General Motors (GM) trucks. GM discovered the "actual footage" utilized in the broadcast had been rigged by the inclusion of explosive incendiaries attached to the gas tanks and the use of improper sealants for those tanks. GM subsequently filed an anti-defamation lawsuit against NBC. NBC publicly admitted the results of the tests were rigged and settled the lawsuit with GM. As a result of the controversy, several Dateline producers were fired.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds View Post
    So it's okay to take John Mark Karr to an elementary school as long as he's not promoting a book?
    You mean the un-aired interview?

    "A limousine carrying Karr and two producers from ABC's Good Morning America was stopped and questioned by police but they determined that no crime was commited. Karr was apparently giving the producers a tour of the neighborhood where he used to live and work when he suddenly exited the limo and approached the school. According to Jeffrey Schneider, senior vice president of ABC News, "his behavior gave us serious pause, and ABC decided not to proceed with the interview".
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    No, NBC only rigs the results of tests to achieve a certian result. From wikipedia....
    A 13 year old rigged crash test?

    You're right, my bad. No sense pointing fingers at Fox here, they all do it.
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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    A 13 year old rigged crash test?

    You're right, my bad. No sense pointing fingers at Fox here, they all do it.
    I figured you'd try to dance out of that. It's ok....they were slimey back then, but not now! Yeaaa...right.

    Hey, if you don't want to admit that all the news orginizations are flawed that's your business. But to imply that all the orginizations are virtious and only Fox is flawed is pretty silly.

    BTW - nice job ignoring my previous post where I said what Fox is doing with the OJ thing is sick. Fox should be body slammed for airing such tripe. But lets not pretend that Fox is the only hypocrites out there.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
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    Oh, I severely dislike Faux News. I've got a pretty substantial bias against the network, and I find the irony here highly amusing, even if the subject matter of the show in question most certainly is not.

    But, sure, all of the news networks do this--like Eugene Robinson says, I'm just waiting for CBS to air Robert Blake's tell-all interview, "How I Would've Shot My Wife in the Head." I heard that it's coming in March.
    So it would seem that comments such as "they knew Fox would do it" is little more than a personal bias based on severe dislike of another entity. I think the word is called "bitterness" in the vernacular.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    I figured you'd try to dance out of that. It's ok....they were slimey back then, but not now! Yeaaa...right.
    Nope, not trying to dance out of anything, I'm just waiting for an example that actually correlates with the topic at hand. If you *truly* believe that a rigged car crash test is on par with the OJ interview, be my guest. We'll just have to disagree there.

    I have no problems slinging criticisms towards Fox because their news channel's smug "We Report, You Decide" tagline is about as far from reality as one can get. Their attempt at moral arrogance with people like Hannity, O'Reilly and Coulter just sets them up to be ridiculed for things like this, and I am more than happy to oblige. All I know is that the interview was apparently too distasteful for NBC, so off to Fox it went. How fitting.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    So it would seem that comments such as "they knew Fox would do it" is little more than a personal bias based on severe dislike of another entity. I think the word is called "bitterness" in the vernacular.
    "They knew Fox would take it" because of Fox's track record, which consistently sets the bar lower and lower. I notice a lot of people are upset that the interview is going forth, yet NO ONE is surprised that it's Fox whose airing it.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    You mean the un-aired interview?

    "A limousine carrying Karr and two producers from ABC's Good Morning America was stopped and questioned by police but they determined that no crime was commited. Karr was apparently giving the producers a tour of the neighborhood where he used to live and work when he suddenly exited the limo and approached the school. According to Jeffrey Schneider, senior vice president of ABC News, "his behavior gave us serious pause, and ABC decided not to proceed with the interview".
    They gave this creep a free limo ride around his neighborhood. After the backlash that occured from reports that surfaced after this guy was peeking in the school window, causing a lockdown and call to police, they thought better of running with it. Wow, they are really ethical down there at ABC.

    I get it. You hate FOX. Everybody else is just jim-dandy fine.

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    Re: Could Orenthal please die already?

    Fox is the lowbrow, anti-intellectual, libertarian omphalos of network television--guided very clearly by ONE particular ideology. It's either naive or stupid to think otherwise.

    All of the other networks are ALSO guided by a fairly singular ideology--but those ideologies are just less extreme on their face.

    These companies are hunting a demographic--and you don't win a demographic by trying to please everybody, and Murdoch knows this: thus, his target audience is males between 25-60, with educations between a high school diploma and a BA/BS degree, suburban or rural, largely white (with a handful of exceptions).
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