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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    I don't even want to know what Drew's going to get.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    I don't even want to know what Drew's going to get.
    $15 per, maybe?

    I guess it's not such a bad thing to have a limited budget. It acts like a governor for GMs who want to make stupid signings like that. I don't think Wayne is the worst GM in the world but I gotta think he'd be making deals like that if he had the money.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    I have to think that if I could prove to a GM that I knew how to put on a cap and glove the right way, I'd be worth at least $2 million a year in this market.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    $15 per, maybe?
    But is that for 8 years, or 10, though?
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Wow, let's hope Freel never takes webgems into arbitration.
    Farney's in the HOF, guaranteed at that statement.

    $10/mill for Gary Matthews, Jr.??? He of Chicago Cub infamy?

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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    That's obscene.

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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    $15 per, maybe?

    I guess it's not such a bad thing to have a limited budget. It acts like a governor for GMs who want to make stupid signings like that. I don't think Wayne is the worst GM in the world but I gotta think he'd be making deals like that if he had the money.
    and if you have the money to spend you should, its not the owners fault that mlb has no salary cap. I think that the thing that is often overlooked is that the teams spending all of this money are doing it for a reason, they say you have to spend money to make money and as far as I know these owners are mostly former or current business men and know a thing or two about what they are doing. If the reds had a top notch product year after year because of spending more money, more fans would attend, the tv contract will grow, and you will start to see a nice return on the investment.

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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by OLD RIGHTHANDER View Post
    and if you have the money to spend you should, its not the owners fault that mlb has no salary cap. I think that the thing that is often overlooked is that the teams spending all of this money are doing it for a reason, they say you have to spend money to make money and as far as I know these owners are mostly former or current business men and know a thing or two about what they are doing. If the reds had a top notch product year after year because of spending more money, more fans would attend, the tv contract will grow, and you will start to see a nice return on the investment.
    That's a great statement in the Utopia Major League Baseball. But, every year there are these contracts out there that are guaranteed albatrosses of ridiculous money for one-year wonders.

    This is like giving Supertramp a 6 record deal since someone thought "Take the Long Way Home" was a precourser of things to come.

    Not smart - and bad for baseball economics.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Confirmed at 5 years, 50M....

    And I thought the Pierre contract was bad, this one barely edges it for worst contract of the offseason so far.

    I would hope this makes Griffey more attractive to some AL teams as a DH.

    I guess Matthews is better in CF than Erstad, but not at this cost.

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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Confirmed at 5 years, 50M....

    And I thought the Pierre contract was bad, this one barely edges it for worst contract of the offseason so far.

    I would hope this makes Griffey more attractive to some AL teams as a DH.

    I guess Matthews is better in CF than Erstad, but not at this cost.
    Some of these deals almost make Griffey's look reasonable.

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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    Some of these deals almost make Griffey's look reasonable.
    Forget Griffey, I figure that contracts should be rated by Miltons.

    If its a good contract it gets One Milton. If it is a bad contract, it gets 5 Miltons.

    Alex Gonzalez is probably 2.5 Miltons. Mike Stanton is about a 1.5 Milton. Soriano's about 4 Miltons.

    Gary Matthews, Jr. is about 10 Miltons.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    Some of these deals almost make Griffey's look reasonable.
    Particularly since he's only paid about $6MM per year, with the other $6MM deferred until 2009-2025. (Plus a $16.5MM balloon the final year.)

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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Here's the real question, how long until the Angels cut Gary Matthews Jr.? I say they pull the cord in August, 2008.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    Quote Originally Posted by OLD RIGHTHANDER View Post
    and if you have the money to spend you should, its not the owners fault that mlb has no salary cap. I think that the thing that is often overlooked is that the teams spending all of this money are doing it for a reason, they say you have to spend money to make money and as far as I know these owners are mostly former or current business men and know a thing or two about what they are doing. If the reds had a top notch product year after year because of spending more money, more fans would attend, the tv contract will grow, and you will start to see a nice return on the investment.

    Never said it was the owners' faults. But I'd rather not have a GM spending money like a drunken sailor on leave just to be spending money. If it came down to a choice between signing Eric Milton to a 3 year $25M deal and making fans giddy cause you actually did something or not signing him at all and getting fans mad cause you did nothing, I'd take the latter. Lindner was/is a smart businessman. You think that was a smart move? The woods are full of owners who have had great success in the business wrold and have done really stupid things with their baseball teams.
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    Re: Angels close to signing Mathews Jr. (5 years $55 million)

    per rotoworld


    The Giants reportedly offered Gary Matthews Jr. the same five-year, $50 million contract he agreed to with the Angels.

    I guess the Angels aren't the only ones out of their minds.


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