Notre Dame
How in the world were they considered a National Title contender? How were they ranked 6th going into this game with USC?
They have beat a total of 1 current ranked team...Georgia Tech...The first game of the season that they squeaked by.
What a schedule Navy, North Carolina, Air force, Army.
Talk about a team living off their past.
When you're 10-1, where are you supposed to be ranked? It's not like they had a lot of other 1 loss teams behind them.
They're a good team. They were a little overmatched tonight, but they can play with most teams in the country. They'd beat Florida, IMO.
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Originally Posted by MWM
When was the last time they actually beat a top team?
Michigan was ranked in the top 5 when they beat them last year. And were it not for an illegal play with no time left on the clock, they would have beaten the #1 team in the country last year. And no one has been able to beat USC lately. They've played the teams on their schedule, what more are they supposed to do. Not being able to beat Michigan or USC this year isn't exactly something to hang your head over. And it certaily doesn't mean you're not a good team.
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It's easy to go 10-1 with a schedule like that. They schedule two top teams a year(michigan USC) and it seems like they loose to them every year.
I think they struggle with every team in the top 20. IMHO
Uh, no it's not EASY to go 10-1 or more teams with weak schedules would do it. And before this year, they had beaten Michigan the previous two season, so I'm not sure where you get that they lose to them every year. And Notre Dame generally plays one of the toughest schedules in the country. this year the teams on their schedule, with the exception of UM and USC, happened to be pretty bad.
You're free to think that if you'd like. I think they'd beat most of the teams outside the top 10.I think they struggle with every team in the top 20. IMHO
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Charlie Weiss is overrated as a play caller imo. He is too risky. He refuses to play field position, and goes for it on 4th down way to often, most notably at midfield. He is such a good tactician his bravado gets the best of him. He is his own worst enemy. Against USC, Michigan and Ohio State last year his decisions to go for it on fourth down forsaking sure points via a field goal cost him dearly.
Hugs, smiling, and interactive Twitter accounts, don't mean winning baseball. Until this community understands that we are cursed to relive the madness.
He's got a couple Super Bowl rings to prove that you are wrong.
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College and the NFL are too different games, and Bill Billichek made the big calls, ie going for it on 4th down. So far what has he won at Notre Dame? That same arguement can be applied to Jerry Narron as well, he played the game and I didn't. Yet I can point out that pitching Ryan Franklin repeatedly is a bad idea.
Hugs, smiling, and interactive Twitter accounts, don't mean winning baseball. Until this community understands that we are cursed to relive the madness.
I COMPLETELY agree with you on this one. I was thinking the exact same thing while watching the game Saturday night. He cost his team points and field position--big time--in that game. Boneheaded.
For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism.
Weis coached about as well as he dressed tonight.
MWM, yes, Michigan was highly ranked last year, but those were preseason rankings. Michigan ended up 7-5. That's not a big win, the same way OSU's win over Texas isn't "big" anymore.
Michigan State
Penn State
Army
Navy
Air Force
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
UCLA
Purdue
Stanford
Not exactly a guantlet. There's about 15 teams that would win every one of those games, and put up much better showings against USC and Michigan.
Notre Dame is as overrated as they come. Every time they play a physical team, they have a ton of injuries and they get rolled. They're soft.
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This thread didn't take off like I thought it would.Is the seat next to you empty? This will be better then Mission Impossible 3!
I really really really do not care for Notre Dame at all -but- their two losses are to the #2 and #3 teams in the nation...there's no shame in that. Like I said in the "Rematch" thread though, no way do they deserve another shot at Michigan in the Rose Bowl. If they must be in a BSC bowl at all, match them up with Boise State in the Fiesta.
I do think their bowl game will be the telling story of this ND team. No way I want to see them get matched up against Michigan(UM destoys them again) let's see them against Florida, or Louisville. If they get their butts handed to them again, then they are overrated.This thread didn't take off like I thought it would.
I really really really do not care for Notre Dame at all -but- their two losses are to the #2 and #3 teams in the nation...there's no shame in that. Like I said in the "Rematch" thread though, no way do they deserve another shot at Michigan in the Rose Bowl. If they must be in a BSC bowl at all, match them up with Boise State in the Fiesta.
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