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    Raiders just got cheated.

    Chargers got the ball and rolled up from the ground. He was not touched; so play was still live. He throws the ball to the ground in celebration and Raiders recover because the ball is still live. Refs rule it an illegal forward pass and Chargers retain possession.

    Play will be shown over and over again all this week. You decide.

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    I guess that's payback for the Holy Roller play.
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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    I'm a Raiders fan and that was a fourth and 2 play, plus i thought the Raiders declined it

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA View Post
    Chargers got the ball and rolled up from the ground. He was not touched; so play was still live. He throws the ball to the ground in celebration and Raiders recover because the ball is still live. Refs rule it an illegal forward pass and Chargers retain possession.

    Play will be shown over and over again all this week. You decide.
    I already have.

    I hate the Raiders, so it was a legit call.
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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    The refs made the right call. Please change the thread title, as it is a bit misleading.

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    Odd, but correct, call brings confusion in S.D. game

    ...While the call was questioned on the field, NFL Supervisor of Officials Mike Pereira confirmed to ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the call was correct -- and not without precedent.

    It is illegal to intentionally fumble a ball forward and, by rule, an illegal forward fumble is an incomplete pass. That makes it a dead ball. A 5-yard penalty is then assessed from the spot.

    Jackson spinning the ball forward when he was not down by contact constituted an intentional illegal forward fumble and thus an illegal forward pass. Had he spun it backward, it would have been a live fumble.

    A similar call was made when Plaxico Burress did the same thing with the Steelers on Oct. 1, 2000.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2676820

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    The announcer said that you have to be able to defend the play for it to be a foward pass.

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    9-2 for my Chargers! I will take it
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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    Quote Originally Posted by NDRed View Post
    The announcer said that you have to be able to defend the play for it to be a foward pass.
    What does that mean...there were Raiders players right there, surely they could "defend" it. A bonehead move by the WR, but he was saved by the rulebook. Correct call refs.

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Odd, but correct, call brings confusion in S.D. game

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    A similar call was made when Plaxico Burress did the same thing with the Steelers on Oct. 1, 2000.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2676820
    A similar call was made? The Plaxico Brurres play was ruled a fumble. How can it be a similar call?

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA View Post
    A similar call was made? The Plaxico Brurres play was ruled a fumble. How can it be a similar call?
    You are correct, it was ruled a fumble and Burress went on and on about feeling remorseful (vrs. Jacksonville). So, the precedent cited for this ruling was in error - was the erroneous citation made by the official or by the writer? By the way, I haven't seen the play. I am just taking issue at the meagre logic provided in print to justify the decision.

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    1. His arm wasn't going forward.
    2. He spun the ball into the ground ahead of him.
    3. Anyone now can make the case that a fumble that goes forward is actually a forward pass (legal or illegal).

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    But didn't they decline the penalty

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    Quote Originally Posted by NDRed View Post
    But didn't they decline the penalty
    No.

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    Re: Raiders just got cheated.

    If you saw the play on the first of three calls they said the Raiders declined the penalty and i don't see any reason to accept it.


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