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    A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Ok everyone - so I need some help.


    I've honestly tired of the nonsensical speculation about how much money the Reds have to spend, who've they've spent it on, how many 40 man rosters slots are open - all over Reds land without anyone really having a definitive correct answer.


    So here's my attempt at clearing up some of the muck. All of the pre-Arb players salaries are what they were paid in 2006. Which may fluctuate, but not by much. I've also left open the amount that Aaron Harang & Kyle Lohse will get, because at this point it's all speculation and no one really knows for sure. By my count, I have the Reds coming in just over $56k before those two contracts.


    It looks as if the Reds have two open slots on the 40 man. Likely there will be another come the start of ST when Brandon Claussen is put on the 60 man opening up another slot.

    Any suggestions, comments or critiques of my breakdown are welcome and appreciated. Thanks

    Code:
    Cincinnati Reds			2007	2008	2009	
    1	SP	Bronson Arroyo	$3.800 	$3.950		MLB
    2	SP	Eric Milton	$9.000 			MLB
    3	SP	Aaron Harang	ARB			MLB
    4	SP	Kyle Lohse	ARB			MLB
    5	SP	Phil Dumatrait				
    6	SP	E. Ramirez	$0.327 			
    7	SP	Matt Belisle	$0.343 			MLB
    8	SP	B. Claussen	$0.370 			
    9	RP	Jon Coutlangus				
    10	RP	Rheal Cormier	$2.250 	$2.250		MLB
    11	RP	Gary Majewski	$0.352 			MLB
    12	RP	Bill Bray	$0.327 			
    13	RP	Mike Stanton	$2.000 	$3.000		MLB
    14	RP	Brad Salmon				
    15	RP	Calvin Medlock				
    16	RP	David Shafer				
    17	RP	David Weathers	$2.000 			MLB
    18	RP	B. Shackelford	$0.327 			
    19	RP	Todd Coffey	$0.327 			MLB
    20	C	Javier Valentin	$1.250 	$1.250		MLB
    21	C	David Ross	ARB			MLB
    22	C	Miguel Perez				
    23	C	Chad Moeller	$0.700 			MLB
    24	1B	Scott Hatteberg	$1.500 	$1.850		MLB
    25	2B	B. Phillips	$0.327 			MLB
    26	SS	A. Gonzalez	$3.500 	$4.625	$5.375	MLB
    27	3B	E. Encarnacion	$0.332 			MLB
    28	IF	Juan Castro	$0.925 			MLB
    29	IF	Brandon Harris	$0.327 			
    30	IF	Joey Votto				
    31	LF	Adam Dunn	$10.5 	$13.0		MLB
    32	CF	K. Griffey Jr	$12.5 	$12.5		MLB	
    33	RF	Ryan Freel	$2.000 			MLB	
    34	OF	Chris Denorfia	$0.327 			MLB	
    35	OF	Bubba Crosby	$0.400 				
    36	OF	Jerry Gil					
    37	OF	Norris Hopper					
    38	OF	Chris Dickerson					
    39		OPEN		?	
    40		OPEN		?	
    							
    	Total Reds Salary=> '07 - $56.011 '08 - $42.425 '09 -  $5.375 		
    							
    						22	<=MLB Roster Players
    						16	<=Non MLB Roster/Bubble Players
    						2	<=Open Roster Spots
    
    		2006 - Also must add a $850k buyout for Paul Wilson
    		2006 - Reds may also owe Chris Hammond $2.0 Mil

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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    I don't know how Junior's numbers are accounted for. He gets $6m with the rest deferred so that may be different.

    Has Stormy re-signed - less $2 m if he hasn't

    Bubba only gets his $400k if he makes the big league roster. I believe its the same with Chad.

    PS. I also think you mean $56m not $56k.

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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Elizardo Ramirez will also be on the 40 man when he is activated from the 60 day DL.

    EDIT: Nevermind, he's on your list.
    Last edited by reds44; 11-30-2006 at 08:52 PM.
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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Not that im a credible source but the other night i was in the same boat you were. The other day I grabbed me a sheet of paper and went down the list of players.

    Pitcher: Harang, Arroyo, Milton, Stanton, Bray, Majewski, Cormier, and Coffey
    Hitters: Ross, Hatteberg, Encarnacion, Gonzo, Dunn, Griffey Jr., Valentin, Moeler, Freel, Denorfia, and Castro
    These are the players i considered on the 25-man roster no matter what. I said Ross gets $1 Million and just like you decided not to even guess at Harang. That also means we would have to get a RF, 2 SP, 2 RP.

    I came up with somewhere around $53 Million for 19 players (excluding Harang). So if Harang gets a $7 million deal which i dont think he will get any more than that then i have the 20 Players listed above (with Harang at 7 mill, Ross at 1) to make right around $60 Million.

    So it sounds like we are both on the same page now.

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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    LaRue gets $3 from us for next year.

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    2006 - Reds may also owe Chris Hammond $2.0 Mil

    Does any one know the details to this if it is true it make Chris's signing even worse.

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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Quote Originally Posted by 4256 Hits View Post
    2006 - Reds may also owe Chris Hammond $2.0 Mil

    Does any one know the details to this if it is true it make Chris's signing even worse.
    We don't owe him that. 2 mil was his option salary. Since we are not picking it up, here are the details:

    signed deal for 2006 season worth 800K on 12/20/05- + the deal includes a Mutual Option for 2007 worth 2M or a buyout- + the value of the buyout can increase based on appearances in 2006- + was RELEASED on 7/12/06- + 2005 salary: 750K (+ about 200K in performance bonuses)
    The buyout is very low is what that means.

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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Even though Griffey has some money deferred the Reds have to to account for it this year, it gets put in a bank account or something, so they will be spending $12.5M on him this season. It's really a pretty pointless deferral, since it doesn't actually save the team a cent.

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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    Even though Griffey has some money deferred the Reds have to to account for it this year, it gets put in a bank account or something, so they will be spending $12.5M on him this season. It's really a pretty pointless deferral, since it doesn't actually save the team a cent.
    My guess is that is the way Jr wanted the contract setup so that he still had money coming into his bank after retirement. It was probably more for his benefit than the team's.

    Although, with deferred payments, the Reds could have put aside $14.5M last year (and would only have to pay $10.5M this year) or something like that, so it does give the Reds a "little" flexibility depending on how they've handled it to date. My guess is that only the Reds know how mcuh they owe Jr. this year and going forward.
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    Re: A Little Help Please - Clearing up the Reds Salaries & 40 Man Roster

    Here's OUR payroll website. Somewhat up to date although it only comes out to just over 49 mill. You have to pick '07 in the box above.

    http://redsinsite.com/cms/index.php?...apper&Itemid=8
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