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    a wasted offseason

    we have the money finally to spend and all we get is Alex Gonzalez and Mike Stanton, many of the right handed power bats are gone, most of the pitchers we could afford and were good are gone and we are left with nothing.... Jeff Suppan and Shea Hillenbrand are our best bets and really they arent worth it... maybe its just me but it jus seems free agents dont wanna come here... maybe its because our fans arent supportive enough which i can see but the main reason is money... to win u have to spend money on big time players which the reds for some reason are not willing to do... if i were the GM julio lugo is my SS but i get eric gagne duh u need a closer and i would have traded for gary sheffield and would sign greg maddux and would have traded for jason jennings...

    my roster would look like this:

    C David Ross
    1B Scott Hatteberg/Shea Hillenbrand
    2B Brandon Phillips
    3B Edwin Encarnacion
    SS Julio Lugo
    LF Adam Dunn
    CF Ken Griffey Jr.
    RF Gary Sheffield

    Rotation:
    1. Aaron Harang
    2. Bronson Arroyo
    3. Jason Jennings
    4. Greg Maddux
    5. Eric Milton/Elizardo Ramirez/Homer Bailey/Kyle Lohse

    although that rotation might be missing a lefty o well lefties dont exactly fare well in our ball park...

    im 18 years old and im not even old enough to remember the times when we were in the playoffs or a world series although as a baby i attended an NLCS and WS game in 90' but wouldnt it be nice to jus once spend money on good players ?? dont u wanna see a ballclub that could consistantly play good D and hit the ball well and pitch a great game?? me too, but ya know what ?? i still and always will love my reds and ya know forget about whats up there ^^ im jus a reds fan wanting to see that celebration on the pitchers mound after we have jus won the world series ... if only dreams could come true

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    I'd much rather wait a few seasons to win a World Series with the players we have now than win one this year with low-character guys like Sheffield and Lugo.

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    I wouldn't mind taking a run at Hillenbrand to platoon with Hatte at first, plus he can play some third if Edwin needs a rest.

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    I wouldn't mind taking a run at Hillenbrand to platoon with Hatte at first, plus he can play some third if Edwin needs a rest.
    if we got someone of Hillenbrand's caliber, there's no way in hell he should have to platoon with somone like Hatteburg.

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by swingman24 View Post
    we have the money finally to spend and all we get is Alex Gonzalez and Mike Stanton, many of the right handed power bats are gone, most of the pitchers we could afford and were good are gone and we are left with nothing.... Jeff Suppan and Shea Hillenbrand are our best bets and really they arent worth it... maybe its just me but it jus seems free agents dont wanna come here... maybe its because our fans arent supportive enough which i can see but the main reason is money... to win u have to spend money on big time players which the reds for some reason are not willing to do... if i were the GM julio lugo is my SS but i get eric gagne duh u need a closer and i would have traded for gary sheffield and would sign greg maddux and would have traded for jason jennings...

    my roster would look like this:

    C David Ross
    1B Scott Hatteberg/Shea Hillenbrand
    2B Brandon Phillips
    3B Edwin Encarnacion
    SS Julio Lugo
    LF Adam Dunn
    CF Ken Griffey Jr.
    RF Gary Sheffield

    Rotation:
    1. Aaron Harang
    2. Bronson Arroyo
    3. Jason Jennings
    4. Greg Maddux
    5. Eric Milton/Elizardo Ramirez/Homer Bailey/Kyle Lohse
    So basically if you were GM, you would find a way to increase payroll to 100M? I'm guessing that would be out of your control. The Reds simply don't have that kind of ridiculous budget.

    And you offer no way of getting Jennings/Sheffield. Those guys costed huge prospects, and I'm guessing Homer Bailey would have to be involved.

    Plus you have us getting Maddux, and I'm positve that unless we offered him an absurd amout of money, he wouldn't have come here. He wanted the west coast.

    The moves you are proposing are not even close to feasible. The Reds don't have the budget, nor do they have the young talent to pick-up Jeenings/Sheffield without depleting the farm. You are basically sacrificing the whole future for 1 year, and even that is not in the realm of possibilities for the Reds.

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    Given the ludicrous contracts being issued to mediocre talent and the lack of pitching talent being dealt, sometimes the best deals are the ones that aren't made.
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    Re: a wasted offseason

    I want Babe Ruth and Sandy Koufax on my pretend roster.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    I'd have Jesus on my roster...would he strike out? I don't think so.
    He would also pitch every game...always PERFECT.
    If his arm got fatigued...he'd just heal it.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    I'd have Jesus on my roster...would he strike out? I don't think so.
    He would also pitch every game...always PERFECT.
    If his arm got fatigued...he'd just heal it.
    Sure, but he can't hit a curveball. For that you need:

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    Is that a baldheaded alien elvis?
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: a wasted offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    Is that a baldheaded alien elvis?
    You don't know Jobu? Is very bad to steal Jobu's rum. Is very bad.
    My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!

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    Sorry...no idea.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    Sorry...no idea.
    Watch this as soon as you can:

    My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Sure, but he can't hit a curveball. For that you need:


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    Re: a wasted offseason

    [QUOTE=swingman24;1213116]we have the money finally to spend and all we get is Alex Gonzalez and Mike Stanton, many of the right handed power bats are gone, most of the pitchers we could afford and were good are gone and we are left with nothing.... Jeff Suppan and Shea Hillenbrand are our best bets and really they arent worth it... maybe its just me but it jus seems free agents dont wanna come here... maybe its because our fans arent supportive enough which i can see but the main reason is money... to win u have to spend money on big time players which the reds for some reason are not willing to do... if i were the GM julio lugo is my SS but i get eric gagne duh u need a closer and i would have traded for gary sheffield and would sign greg maddux and would have traded for jason jennings...

    my roster would look like this:

    C David Ross
    1B Scott Hatteberg/Shea Hillenbrand
    2B Brandon Phillips
    3B Edwin Encarnacion
    SS Julio Lugo
    LF Adam Dunn
    CF Ken Griffey Jr.
    RF Gary Sheffield

    Rotation:
    1. Aaron Harang
    2. Bronson Arroyo
    3. Jason Jennings
    4. Greg Maddux
    5. Eric Milton/Elizardo Ramirez/Homer Bailey/Kyle Lohse

    although that rotation might be missing a lefty o well lefties dont exactly fare well in our ball park...

    im 18 years old and im not even old enough to remember the times when we were in the playoffs or a world series although as a baby i attended an NLCS and WS game in 90' but wouldnt it be nice to jus once spend money on good players ?? dont u wanna see a ballclub that could consistantly play good D and hit the ball well and pitch a great game?? me too, but ya know what ?? i still and always will love my reds and ya know forget about whats up there ^^ im jus a reds fan wanting to see that celebration on the pitchers mound after we have jus won the world series ... if only dreams could come true[/Q

    Like wow guess we are not allowed to do any trades before or in season huh? Bummer
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