I don't ask that every move be ingenious. Sometimes you have to tread water, sometimes you take a step back to take two forward. I just expect a minimum level of competence. Don't piss on my feet and tell me it's raining.
You tell 'em Jerry! With today's medical technology, 40 years old is just getting started. Anyway, the biggest loss here is Harris in my opinion. Thought he might be a solid player, but with the addition of Gonzalez, there really wasn't an opening for him. Conine should be a solid bat off the bench and hopefully provide extra OF insurance so Wayne can deal Denorfia for a pitcher. I'm sure he'll be starting in right field on opening day though."I’m excited about it. He’s a guy that we know has had an outstanding career so far.
I won't judge Krivsky's moves individually, but bringing in roster-filler players like Moeller, Stanton, Conine, Crosby, etc. is a clear sign to me that we are not going to compete in 2007.
Phillies sign Werth for $800k.
Reds trade 2 minor leaguers to Philly for Conine, who makes $2 million.
Who did better, Cincy or Philly?
I hate to say this but I wonder where the Reds are going if we had a conteding team I could understand the moves they have made but it looks like bandaids on a bullet wound
So here's a hypothetical. Which player would be considered a better fit (incidentally both are right handed and can play corner outfield too though lets be honest-both are defensive liabilities)?
Player A*: $2M/yr plus two minor leaguers and DFA'ing a potentially useful guy
2005 vs lefties: .280/.353/.347 75 AB
2006 vs lefties: .260/.337/.400 150 AB
Pecota prediction for both sides in '07: .266/.321/.395 (replacement level first baseman-he no longer shows a split advantage against lefties and hasn't really since '04 so what you see is what you get)
Player B*: probably a 2 yr deal for $7-9.5M total
2005 vs lefties: .283/.449/.415 53 AB
2006 vs lefties: .278/.347/.496 163 AB
pecota prediction for both sides in '07: 262/.361/.485 (league average for firstbase in '06 was .284/.342/.453 but he is likely to be better than Pecota's 50th percentile if a bigger percentage of his AB are against lefties).
So what is the ultimate goal? To simply fill roster spots for as little payroll as you can while crossing your fingers or to fill them with the best players possible within reason?
Do you want to be competitive or are you just attempting to appear like youre trying to be competitive?
I pick player B by the way...
*A=Conine; B=C. Wilson
Last edited by jojo; 12-21-2006 at 08:19 PM.
My theory is that ten years ago, Wayne Krivsky made out a list of players he wanted to acquire if he ever became a GM, and now he's checking names off that list.
Not bad of a deal. You get a journeyman player who knows his role for two marginal prospects.
Votto is the future first baseman. If Krivsky trades one of the top 10 Reds prospects, I would be concerned.
Meanwhile, I continue my winter snooze.
If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.
Last edited by jojo; 12-21-2006 at 07:04 PM.
What people also need to remember is that although STATISTICALLY, we might have gotten a decent player in Conine for relatively "cheap" but while not considered "injury proned", you HAVE to look at his age..41..he has some mileage..and who's to say he doesnt throw out his back or something in the first month and is out for the season..so whats that? 2 mil down the drain..
I get ripped on all the time for this but seriously...how can you NOT start being disgusted with WK
I wonder if we offer Harris who we dfaed to the devil rays for the rights to Hamilton. That way they get a player and we would get to keep Hamilton. If not I hope we can either trade him or he clears waivers and we can keep him in the farm system.
Everyone is complaining that krivsky isnt signing any big name free agents, but lets think about this for a second.
Lets say he has 15 million to spend this offseason.
He needs bullpen help, help in the rotation, a SS, and a part time 1B.
We can sign Ted Lilly to hep the rotation but then we still have holes at SS, 1st and in the pen.
So basically Wayne is working with in his budget. A big name free agent might be nice but if we still have 3 or 4 major holes on the team then we will not compete. Wayne is building this team within his budget, he has to fill all the holes with 15 million dollars not 15 for each hole.