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    N.L. Central Projected lineups

    These are the projected line-ups from MLB.com. I know there are the other divisions have some contenders, but this division look vaguely similar. I like our chances.

    Cardinals

    SS David Eckstein
    2B Adam Kennedy
    1B Albert Pujols
    CF Jim Edmonds
    3B Scott Rolen
    LF Chris Duncan
    RF Juan Encarnacion
    C Yadier Molina
    SP Chris Carpenter
    SP TBA
    SP Adam Wainwright/Braden Looper
    SP Kip Wells
    SP Anthony Reyes
    CL Jason Isringhausen or Adam Wainwright

    Astros

    2B Craig Biggio
    CF Chris Burke
    1B Lance Berkman
    LF Carlos Lee
    3B Morgan Ensberg
    RF Luke Scott
    SS Adam Everett
    C Brad Ausmus
    SP Roy Oswalt
    SP Jason Jennings
    SP Woody Williams
    SP Fernando Nieve
    SP Wandy Rodriguez
    CL Brad Lidge

    Reds

    RF Ryan Freel
    1B Scott Hatteberg
    CF Ken Griffey Jr.
    3B Edwin Encarnacion
    LF Adam Dunn
    2B Brandon Phillips
    C David Ross
    SS Alex Gonzalez
    SP Aaron Harang
    SP Bronson Arroyo
    SP Kyle Lohse
    SP Eric Milton
    SP Matt Belisle/Elizardo Ramirez
    CL David Weathers/Mike Stanton

    Brewers

    LF Corey Hart
    2B Rickie Weeks
    1B Prince Fielder
    CF Bill Hall
    C Johnny Estrada
    RF Geoff Jenkins/Kevin Mench
    3B Corey Koskie
    SS J.J. Hardy
    SP Ben Sheets
    SP Chris Capuano
    SP Jeff Suppan
    SP Dave Bush
    SP Claudio Vargas
    CL Francisco Cordero

    Cubs

    RF Alfonso Soriano
    SS Cesar Izturis
    1B Derrek Lee
    3B Aramis Ramirez
    CF Jacque Jones
    C Michael Barrett
    LF Matt Murton
    2B Mark DeRosa
    SP Carlos Zambrano
    SP Ted Lilly
    SP Mark Prior
    SP Rich Hill
    sp Jason Marquis
    CL Ryan Dempster

    Pirates

    CF Chris Duffy
    SS Jack Wilson
    3B Freddy Sanchez
    LF Jason Bay
    RF Xavier Nady
    1B Ryan Doumit
    2B Jose Castillo
    C Ronny Paulino
    SP Zach Duke
    SP Ian Snell
    SP Paul Maholm
    SP Tom Gorzelanny
    SP Shawn Chacon
    CL Mike Gonzalez

    On paper the Cubs rule. But I am not so sure that it will all gel. (The pirates look pretty good for the future.) All in all, I think the Reds have a decent shot. Once in the playoffs. I am not so sure.
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    If the Cubs bat Izturis 2nd and Murton 7th, they all should be fired on the spot.
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    Junior in CF batting 3rd. Yikes.

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    Re: N.L. Central Projected lineups

    Reds

    RF Ryan Freel
    1B Scott Hatteberg
    CF Ken Griffey Jr.
    3B Edwin Encarnacion
    LF Adam Dunn
    2B Brandon Phillips
    C David Ross
    SS Alex Gonzalez
    SP Aaron Harang
    SP Bronson Arroyo
    SP Kyle Lohse
    SP Eric Milton
    SP Matt Belisle/Elizardo Ramirez
    CL David Weathers/Mike Stanton


    You like our chances ? To do what??

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    In the context of the season, I can understand shifts in batting order (though not necessarily to the degree that Narron does). But why, WHY would anyone in his right mind slip Adam Dunn into the fifth spot as his default home? Besides the many obvious reasons why this goes against baseball wisdom, the man wears pitchers out. If he's in a slump, fine, put him fifth. as a default -- insane.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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    Re: N.L. Central Projected lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    In the context of the season, I can understand shifts in batting order (though not necessarily to the degree that Narron does). But why, WHY would anyone in his right mind slip Adam Dunn into the fifth spot as his default home? Besides the many obvious reasons why this goes against baseball wisdom, the man wears pitchers out. If he's in a slump, fine, put him fifth. as a default -- insane.

    I'm guessing they are predicating this on the fact that Narron likes to break up the lefties in the lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I'm guessing they are predicating this on the fact that Narron likes to break up the lefties in the lineup.
    Then they should have him batting third.
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    Hatteberg has no business batting second. His OPS in 130 AB's in the 2 hole last year was .614. He should be batting sixth when he plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    Then they should have him batting third.
    Narron logic again dictates that won't happen.
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    Wow - what's the over/under on 90 loss teams in the NL Central in 2007 - three? Four? five?

    That may be why the Reds have any sort of shot, because everyone of their division rivals is god awful.

    I can't believe the Cubs spent all that money and probably made themselves worse overall.

    And I feel embarrassed for baseball that the Cardinals with that team won the World Series.

    If the Brewers are able to get anything positive out of Geoff Jenkins, Kevin Mench, Jeff Suppan & Ben Sheets, I'm thinking they are your frontrunner for the time being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    Then they should have him batting third.

    Jr. bats 3rd.
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    Re: N.L. Central Projected lineups

    Freel/Deno bats 1st
    Dunn bats 2nd
    EE bats 3rd
    Jr bats 4th

    don't care after that....

    But maybe something like

    Phillips
    Ross
    Agon
    Hatte/Conine
    Pitcher


    I usually don't get to into the mechanics of the line up too often. I guess my biggest hope is that Narron picks one/two and sticks with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Freel/Deno bats 1st
    Dunn bats 2nd
    EE bats 3rd
    Jr bats 4th

    don't care after that....

    But maybe something like

    Phillips
    Ross
    Agon
    Hatte/Conine
    Pitcher


    I usually don't get to into the mechanics of the line up too often. I guess my biggest hope is that Narron picks one/two and sticks with them.

    That's what you think it should be and it should be something close to that. But what it should be and what it will be are two different things. Like I said, Jr. will bat 3rd and he will play CF. Narron will break up the lefties and Dunn will probably end up batting 5th.
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    Re: N.L. Central Projected lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Cubs

    RF Alfonso Soriano
    SS Cesar Izturis
    1B Derrek Lee
    3B Aramis Ramirez
    CF Jacque Jones
    C Michael Barrett
    LF Matt Murton
    2B Mark DeRosa
    SP Carlos Zambrano
    SP Ted Lilly
    SP Mark Prior
    SP Rich Hill
    sp Jason Marquis
    CL Ryan Dempster
    Hmmm...based on what I've heard, you've got some things mixed up. Overall, it's about right. Some changes...

    -Piniella hasn't decided on who's hitting second. He'll settle it during ST, although it'll probably be one of DeRosa, Murton, or Izturis.

    -The Cubs have been pursuing a platoon partner for the OF...but whether it's for Jones or Murton is unclear. There was some discussion of platooning Jones with Murton (moving Soriano to LF and getting a CF to fill in), but I think that died down. Word is the Cubs are going after Cliff Floyd to platoon with Jones and that they're happy having Murton play every day.

    -CF is a mystery. Soriano might be placed there, as apparently he has the tools to play there quite well. However, word is the Cubs have been shopping Jones, meaning they'd move Soriano to a corner. Jacque Jones might be able to play CF, but I really don't know if he can play there every day any more. A curious possibility is uber-prospect Felix Pie. Pie has a world of potential, but I don't think he's ready yet. His plate discipline and pitch selection could use plenty of work. He'll need a minimum of half a season in AAA to work out some of those kinks, imo.

    -Assuming the Cubs make no moves between now and opening day, the lineup would probably look like:

    Soriano
    Murton
    Lee
    Ramirez
    Barrett
    Jones
    DeRosa
    Izturis
    Pitcher

    -The rotation looks about right, although Prior apparently won't be ready for spring training. Wade Miller is a likely candidate for the #5 spot, although he might not be ready, either. Odds are, it'll come down to a competition between Sean Marshall, Juan Mateo, Angel Guzman, JK Ryu, and probably a few other AAA-level pitchers for the #5 spot. My money's on Guzman since he's finally healthy and has always had a really nice upside.

    -Dempster will probably be the closer out the gate, but don't be surprised if he loses it to Wood, Eyre, or Howry a month or two into the season. His previous season was not good. If it carries over into next season, he'll be on a short leash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    That's what you think it should be and it should be something close to that. But what it should be and what it will be are two different things. Like I said, Jr. will bat 3rd and he will play CF. Narron will break up the lefties and Dunn will probably end up batting 5th.
    I guess I'm confused on the purpose of this. Reading closely, projected does in fact imply what they think Narron will do. Initially I thought it was projected BEST lineup.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.


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