Originally Posted by Sweetstop
I'm talking about his leaving is what the fans wanted, in case I wasn't clear.
I'm talking about his leaving is what the fans wanted, in case I wasn't clear.
teach tolerance.
He's never missed the NCAA tournament, he's got a national championship, and he always has one of the hardest schedules in the Country. He's usually ranked in the top 10-15.. Sure, he's had a couple down years, but running him out of town was a bit harsh. EVERY team has down years.
If only every team could be so forunate.
If he had a lighter schedule, with more wins, but maybe not any more success in the NCAA tournament, UK fans would be screaming they don't play anybody.
Hell, some of them COMPLAINED because their National Title wasn't with Pitino's kids, and not his!
They're a strange breed.
I can't blame Tubby for leaving.
Last edited by Matt700wlw; 03-22-2007 at 07:39 PM.
amen, Matt.
teach tolerance.
He had that same "ultimatum" after he finished the prior season. Last time I checked, Barnhardt was the one who did the blinking....both times.
From what I heard, it was. He was told to fire the whole staff AND employ a new offensive and defensive strategy, and he could stay. He declined. His agent was in contact with Minnesota, the rest is history.
PS: I was also told Michigan "wasn't interested in him", and that's why Minnesota was approached.
Contrary to reports, not every UK fan was hanging Tubby Smith in effigy.
I know. I'm one of them, Blimpie.
teach tolerance.
I actually think Majerus makes a fair amount of sense, assuming he's healthy enough to want the job. The biggest reason is because he's available. At the very least, he'd be a great stopgap for Kentucky until the long term solution is contractually available. He's won with less talent.Sorry y'all - I didn't think I'd be fishing for you guys - just bustin' the chops.
If Tubby goes, they're will be plenty of people who would want that job. How about Huggy Bear in Lexington? They guy from Southern Illinois? How about a guy who runs a Princeton style offense? Calipari? Mike Brey from Notre Dame? What about a guy like Billy Gillespie? or even Rick Majerus?
Too many possibilities.
Now, if KY can get a guy like Calipari out of his contract, they'll do it. But I don't necessarily think it will be all that easy.
Those of you who say this isn't a desirable job are out of your skulls. With the exception of coaches who insist on not living in the middle of the country, KY is the type of job every coach wants. Men's college basketball is really the biggest thing in town, there's a tremendous tradition, and the program has $$$ to pay you.
Billy Donovan is not going to leave for KY, but most of the other guys mentioned would if they could.
Stick to your guns.
Me too. He'll land on his feet in Minnesota.
Yes we've been way too harsh on Tubby. WOW
ESPN said there is a long list of potential replacements, but Mark Few of Gonzaga and Tom Crean of Marquette are on the top of the list, FWIW.
Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.
Now that this job is open...you have to think bigger than this.
Crean hasnt done much without Mr. Wade.
Call the Donovan's etc of the world. Maybe they say no but call them nonetheless and work your way down.
Regarding Donovan, I listened to those who said he wouldn't leave Florida under any circumstances, and agreed with them. Now I'm reading others who say that the right amount of money will pursuade almost anyone to do almost anything, and I'm wondering if the right amount of cash would get him here? It's not like they'd be trying to lure him to a Division II school that has never won anything before.
I believe some UK fans were too tough on Tubby, but that doesn't change the fact that the program was declining under his leadership and that it was best for him to move on. It shouldn't have been personal although some fans made it so.
For all the talk going around, I think there are only 3 coaches in the country who are absolute "No's"
Coach K
Roy Williams
Bill Self.
Period. Sorry OSU fans. Sorry Texas fans. Sorry [insert school who thinks their situation is better than UK longterm] fans. Those three are at schools that they want to be at, and are at top 5 all time programs. Everyone else will at least consider it long and hard, Matta and Donovan included. They may not come, but they will take the call and talk dollars and such with families and agents.
UK is the Yankees, and the Lakers, and the Red Wings. It's a destination, dream job for 99.9% of the coaches in America.
No matter how badly Tubby was treated [and yes he was treated very badly by Big Blue nation]
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
“Everything that happens before Death is what counts.”
― Ray Bradbury, Something Wicked This Way Comes
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