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    MTV and the music industry

    What has MTV's effect been on the music industry?

    Has it been good, bad or just the normal progression of life?

    NOTE: By MTV I mean the early 80's to 1993ish version of MTV that actually played music videos with some occasional off the wall programing (Adam Sandler, Keith Ober and Kari Wurer say thank you). Especially the early years where MTV was just looking for videos to play.
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    Re: MTV and the music industry

    I would say that it's been bad for music, although I have no statistics to back me up. I think record labels started looking for artists that they could package visually and musically -- as opposed to just musically. I think that's affected female artists more so than male artists.

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    Song quality no longer matters, it's all about looking good.
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    Mmm...Marisol Massey.

    I agree with NJReds. MTV would never have played, say, Janis Ian or Janis Joplin. They're fixated on music product.
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    MTV is the devil.

    Seriously, look behind them for the tail.

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    Re: MTV and the music industry

    I think its just a natural progression.

    Style, hair, clothes, looks, etc. have always been a part of popular music. MTV accentuated that which probably is a negative from a pure musical standpoint. But only mildly so. It was already happening.

    It did provide an additional creative outlet. It also provided another medium for new bands, music, etc. which is all positive IMHO.

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    Re: MTV and the music industry

    What does MTV have to do with music?
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    Re: MTV and the music industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    I agree with NJReds. MTV would never have played, say, Janis Ian or Janis Joplin. They're fixated on music product.
    They did play Cindee Lauper, Paul Simon, Toto and Men at Work in heavy rotation in the early days. And none of them are too easy on the eyes.

    But over time they have definatley shifted from a creative new format into pretty faces and watered down "music".
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    They did play Cindee Lauper, Paul Simon, Toto and Men at Work in heavy rotation in the early days. And none of them are too easy on the eyes.

    In the early days, they needed filler. I mean Hall & Oates was a staple in the rotation.

    Once it got going though, it was all about the 'look'...particularly for women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJReds View Post
    In the early days, they needed filler. I mean Hall & Oates was a staple in the rotation..
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    In the early days, they needed filler.
    Yep. Mtv simply played what they had on hand.

    It was the industry that responded with "lookers" and gave us Belinda Carlisle and The New Kids on the Block.
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    Re: MTV and the music industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    They did play Cindee Lauper, Paul Simon, Toto and Men at Work in heavy rotation in the early days. And none of them are too easy on the eyes.

    But over time they have definatley shifted from a creative new format into pretty faces and watered down "music".

    I had a crush on Cindee Lauper.
    MTV lead to a bastardization of music which lead to the Spice Girls, Vanilla Ice and Millie Vanillie; and continues to day with Britney, Christina, the *****cat Dolls, American Idol and almost all of country music.
    On the popular scene, it is no longer about the music - it is about getting a pretty face and putting it to music.


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    Yep. Mtv simply played what they had on hand.

    It was the industry that responded with "lookers" and gave us Belinda Carlisle and The New Kids on the Block.

    Absolutely, it was an evolution. And ultimately, I guess you can say that while MTV was the vehicle, the consumers drove that evolution to the point where someone like Britney Spears could become a chart-topper.

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    Absolutely. Can you imagine Bob Dylan becoming a superstar today? I can't.
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    Absolutely. Can you imagine Bob Dylan becoming a superstar today? I can't.
    There have been good ones who have squeaked through to superstardom while still being genuinely good, valid bands: Radiohead, Pearl Jam, Oasis come to mind. Notably, though, they've done it while pretty much avoiding MTV.

    I do think it's romanticism to say that there's crap on the radio these days more than in the past. There was an awful lot of bubble gum crap on the radio in the 60s, an awful lot of drone rock in the 70s, an awful lot of crap, period, in the 80s, etc. And a lot of those people got a good chance due to their looks too, even before MTV. We just don't remember it so well because, of course, it did not survive. And Britney Spears won't be on the radio in 25 years either. The sheer amount of money changing hands for this crap these days is ridiculous, but I think that would have happened without MTV anyway.
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