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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Am I missing something here? Wasn't Paul Wilson's deal a Minor League one? Where is the risk? He either has something in the tank, or he doesn't.
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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

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    Come on, Wilson was done 2 years ago..let it go Reds.
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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Am I missing something here? Wasn't Paul Wilson's deal a Minor League one? Where is the risk? He either has something in the tank, or he doesn't.
    The risk is just because he's living and breathing and in the system, Crazy Wayne might be tempted to use him. That's more than enough risk for my taste.

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    I disagree with 75% of what Wayne does but signing Paul Wilson to a minor league deal is not one of them. Who cares? If he has anything left then great....if not he goes home.
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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by paulrichjr View Post
    I disagree with 75% of what Wayne does but signing Paul Wilson to a minor league deal is not one of them. Who cares? If he has anything left then great....if not he goes home.
    Time and money wasted could and should be better spent.

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Time and money wasted could and should be better spent.
    Not the Reds time, but Paul's. This move is respect and nothing more. Why you people are even complaining about it, shows the level of desperation some have reached sadly enough.

    The Ross deal was much more interesting to debate.

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Everyone seems to be expecting Ross to fall off this year.

    I don't see it. He's coming into his prime. He got more playing time last year ever and wore down a little in August.

    I think it's a great signing.
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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Time and money wasted could and should be better spent.
    I can't argue with the time portion, but for the small amount of money invested in a minor league deal who exactly do you think we should have spent it on that would make any difference to this team?
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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Am I missing something here? Wasn't Paul Wilson's deal a Minor League one? Where is the risk? He either has something in the tank, or he doesn't.
    His presence on the club, in any capacity, qualifies as "soul-sucking" at this point. If he makes the big-league mound to toss 74 mph "cheese" at hitters this year, well, that may define low point for me as a fan. Why can't they just move on?

    Edited to add: And, given the extended and unfortunate Joe Mays days last summer, I don't trust WK as far as I can throw him to not foist the decrepit Wilson on the club at some point...
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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    Everyone seems to be expecting Ross to fall off this year.

    I don't see it. He's coming into his prime. He got more playing time last year ever and wore down a little in August.

    I think it's a great signing.
    I agree RFS. And even if he "falls off" from his .932 OPS last year to say .850 I don't see that as a problem. And good point about his age (and that they kept it to a 2 year deal + team option).
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

    I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    His presence on the club, in any capacity, qualifies as "soul-sucking" at this point. If he makes the big-league mound to toss 74 mph "cheese" at hitters this year, well, that may define low point for me as a fan. Why can't they just move on?

    Edited to add: And, given the extended and unfortunate Joe Mays days last summer, I don't trust WK as far as I can throw him to not foist the decrepit Wilson on the club at some point...
    I think we're kidding ourselves if we think that we'll see a repeat of what we saw last year, as the new management desperately tried to cobbled together an effective pitching staff. We will not see a cheese-throwing Paul Wilson on the mound this year. I think it's very unlikely we'll see Paul Wilson throw for the big club unless he's nearly completely back from the injury. The chances of that are slim, but we'll see how he progresses. I was surprised when I saw his age; I thought he was 4 or 5 years older. This is a no lose proposition, far from "soul-sucking" - oh, such hyperbole! - to see if the guy has anything left in the tank. Odds are again, that it's no, but we'll see.

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    Re: Ross signs 2 year deal; Paul Wilson signs minor league deal

    Ross had a .203/.325.484 line after the all-star break. Not saying that's what we should expect, but I think he could very easily fall to the .800 line.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.


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