I think a lot of his success, or lack of, will be a result of who he follows in the rotation if, indeed, he does win a starting job.
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I'm all for picking up cheap longshots like Saarloos. But he walks too many (3.93/9 last year), gives-up too many HR (1.41/9 in Oakland's pitching paradise), doesn't K enough (3.86/9 last year) and allows too many baserunners (WHIPs of 1.60, 1.40 and 1.66 the last 3 years running).
If they could have gotten Saarloos for DFAs like Harris or Olmedo ok, or a minor league journeyman like Michael Gosling or Eric Junge ok, or as a token return in a Salary Dump for say a Milton or Cormier ok. But for this team to trade a young cheap minor leaguer with options and a chance to play a role for cheap for a few years is too much to pay.
Saarloos will struggle to make the team IMO. Bad Deal.
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Does anyone outside of me think this is a precursor to a bigger move? Saarloos was supposively Oaklands numbers five starter, or a very good case at making this..
Something about this move screams "more to come", excuse me for being pumped before but if Saarloos comes back to the NL (He original pitched for Houston) and knocks half a run or a full run off his era due to the pretty timid division he'd be pitching in.. Doesn't this still qualify as a good trade for the Reds? We got a young, decent arm for 1.2 million dollars. He might not be Pedro circa 2000, but is he better than running out a under-devolped Bailey, an always injured Belisle or Victor "Please hit me" Santos?
So he's failed in the american league, don't you think switching back and facing weaker competition might help him? Im not saying he's going to perform a miracle and win the Cy young, but league average is a plus expecially for 1.2 mill in todays market?
But hey, we can always sign more over-aged relievers and Conine.
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As for Bonderman, several teams have been fooled by Pena and it's not exactly like they let him go at a time pitching was a weakenss in their organisation. If a GM can go 9 years and only be criticized for 1 arm that got away, I bet he sleeps well at night.
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Yeah, Shafer is overvalued on these boards while Medlock is undervalued. Medlock has a better physical upside in the pen(why he was moved there) and a better breaking pitch. Shafer is just a spare part that figures to be a long reliever if he makes it while Medlock may be a setup man at some point.