That would make this a bad trade really fast. You don't trade 23 (now 24?) year old pitchers who pitched well for 3 months last year.Originally Posted by Highlifeman21
That would make this a bad trade really fast. You don't trade 23 (now 24?) year old pitchers who pitched well for 3 months last year.
ugh. EZ is twice the pitcher Saarloos is.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
Anytime you can pick up a guy who's likely to outperform 2/5 of your rotation, and do so for nothing, you've made a solid move. No guarantees with Saarloos, but it's definitely better than not trying at all.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
Agreed
You do if they're under 6' tall and lacking a dominant fastball.
I'd like to see the Reds get something out of EZ while there are still people out there who think he can be an effective starter.
Cincinnati Reds: Farm System Champions 2022
Wow...optimism!!
From you!!
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I've always been intrigued by Saarloos -- great record in college, but didn't have the pro measurables. Kinda like Shane Komine, who not coincidently is in the Oakland system. Good to have some starting pitching depth, and if he proves effective at the back of the rotation, nice that the Reds control him for a few years yet. The team continues to morph, little by little, to pitching and defense.
I have never been a big Bellhorn fan, but he could provide something I've been hoping the Reds could acquire -- a LH-hitting backup who can play 2B and 3B, to give Phillips and EdE breathers now and then against tough righties. I like the fit.
1 Bronson Arroyo (R)
2 Aaron Harang (R)
3 Eric Milton (L)
4 Kyle Lohse (R)
5 Paul Wilson (R)
5 Kirk Saarloos (R)
5 Homer Bailey (R)
5 Elizardo Ramirez (R)
This is better than it was.
Rob Neyer: "Any writer who says he'd be a better manager than the worst manager is either 1) lying (i.e. 'using poetic license') or 2) patently delusional. Which isn't to say managers don't do stupid things that you or I wouldn't."
I'm looking for him to hit the .750 OPS area and if that happens he'll be able to keep the team in ballgames and give us opportunities to win.
Rob Neyer: "Any writer who says he'd be a better manager than the worst manager is either 1) lying (i.e. 'using poetic license') or 2) patently delusional. Which isn't to say managers don't do stupid things that you or I wouldn't."
This is how I see it, too.
Rob Neyer: "Any writer who says he'd be a better manager than the worst manager is either 1) lying (i.e. 'using poetic license') or 2) patently delusional. Which isn't to say managers don't do stupid things that you or I wouldn't."
Positive acquisition with this move
2006 Redzone mock Draftee's- 1(st) Daniel Bard(redsox), 1(st sup)( Jordan Walden (Angels), 2(nd) rd.- Zach Britton(Orioles), 3(rd) Blair Erickson(Cardinals), 3(rd) Tim Norton( Yankees),(cuz its a Tim Hortons thing
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
I like the Bellhorn signing. As for the trade, meh. I liked Shafer and think he'll be a solid reliever.
Don't forget that Victor Santos is also in the #5 mix somewhere.
I'll wait and see before I jump up and down...I like the fact that the guy is a GB pitcher and I am encouraged that he is a sinker ball pitcher too...Pole has had some success with pitchers of his make up.
"Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."
OMG WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT MARK BELLHORN.
Mark Bellhorn is HOTT like a locomotive in heat.
(I also approve the Saarloos trade. I've actually thought before this is someone the reds should get.)
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
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