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    Re: Pitching, defense enhanced this spring

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I agree, I'd like to see the Reds play better defense. But until I see them get serious about moving Jr. to RF, I'm just assuming they are just paying lip service to defense.
    That couldn't be more true. Who do they think they're fooling?
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    Re: Pitching, defense enhanced this spring

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    I've heard it preached and preached and preached and preached.

    Still waiting for it to actually be done.


    Maybe this is the year? Maybe..?
    It has to be preached at the minor league level, and there has to be an expectation that when they reach the majors, they know how to play baseball the "Reds way." It's ridiculous that major league managers should have to teach fundamentals at the big league level. It should be automatic with major leaguers, and nothing less should be expected. Play the game the right way. If you guys haven't noticed, I don't have a lot of tolerance for fundamentally bad baseball at the major league level.
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    Re: Pitching, defense enhanced this spring

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Heeler View Post
    While I agree that having good defensive players, especially up the middle, is optimum, the early run A's are proof that you can win a lot of ballgames with very good pitching and a bunch of stone-gloved mashers in the field.
    What A's are you talking about?
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    Re: Pitching, defense enhanced this spring

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Davis View Post
    That couldn't be more true. Who do they think they're fooling?
    I'm not sure I agree with that. Why would they bring it up to him if they weren't serious about doing it? Maybe I am too optomistic, but I think the wait and see approach coming into ST is just out of respect for Junior. I think WK and Narron know he wont' be in CF on opening day. I'll be surprised if he starts in CF on opening day, very surprised and dissapointed.
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    Re: Pitching, defense enhanced this spring

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC View Post
    What A's are you talking about?
    These guys:

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    C   Ramon Hernandez     24  143  419   52  101  19  0  14   62  38   64  .241  .311  .387   1   0  14   7  10   5   1   80
    1B *Jason Giambi        29  152  510  108  170  29  1  43  137 137   96  .333  .476  .647   2   0   9   9   0   8   6  188
    2B  Randy Velarde       37  122  485   82  135  23  0  12   41  54   95  .278  .354  .400   9   3  15   3   3   1   0   95
    3B *Eric Chavez         22  153  501   89  139  23  4  26   86  62   94  .277  .355  .495   2   2   9   1   0   5   8  118
    SS  Miguel Tejada       24  160  607  105  167  32  1  30  115  66  102  .275  .349  .479   6   0  15   4   2   2   6  112
    LF *Ben Grieve          24  158  594   92  166  40  1  27  104  73  130  .279  .359  .487   3   0  32   3   0   5   2  117
    CF *Terrence Long       24  138  584  104  168  34  4  18   80  43   77  .288  .336  .452   5   0  18   1   0   3   1  102
    RF *Matt Stairs         32  143  476   74  108  26  0  21   81  78  122  .227  .333  .414   5   2   7   1   1   6   4   93

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    Re: Pitching, defense enhanced this spring

    Our offense was pretty good last year, at least until Wayne traded half of it away for complete garbage.
    Not quite like last year. The offense was very good until August.
    Let us not forget the month of May 2006. A month that had all the studs on offense.

    A month that saw the powerful offense score 3 runs or less in 15 of the 28 games played. A month that saw the powerful offense get shutout 5 times. A month that saw the team go 12-16. A month that saw the starting pitching post a 3.89 ERA for the month. A team that finished 3.5 games out of 1st place in the end. Ah... what a month.

    2 of 8 is 1/4, not 1/2.
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