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    Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Dan did a good job in drafting the farm system (ex. Jay Bruce, Homer Bailey, Travis Wood), but didn't seem to do so well with the majors (see Milton). Nor was his piggy-back pitching system a fan favorite

    Wayne has done a pretty good job in trades (ex. Phillips, Arroyo, and Ross) and while the verdict is still out there in terms of the way he works the farm system, things aren't looking so well for Stubbs and Watson. Also, some would argue that this offseason has been a bust.

    Which one would you rather have running the team right now?

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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Is a 3rd option available?
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    Is a 3rd option available?
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky has made some bad trades and his draft was terrible and DanO made some good draft choices but the key word there is some. DanO's fault lied in the fact that he did too little and this hurt the ballclub in comparison with Krivsky's fault which is to do way too much. Truthfully I think they both suck and my choice would be neither.

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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    None of the above...My vote is John Schuerholz

    I think many on here have stated, "at least give Wayne a full year...He at least has a plan...He is much better than DanO..." We are almost at that year mark and I am not sure we are any better today then we would have been with DanO as the GM.
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky.

    The man's been on the job less than a year, folks.

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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky, by far.
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDunn View Post
    Dan did a good job in drafting the farm system (ex. Jay Bruce, Homer Bailey, Travis Wood), but didn't seem to do so well with the majors (see Milton). Nor was his piggy-back pitching system a fan favorite

    Wayne has done a pretty good job in trades (ex. Phillips, Arroyo, and Ross) and while the verdict is still out there in terms of the way he works the farm system, things aren't looking so well for Stubbs and Watson. Also, some would argue that this offseason has been a bust.

    Which one would you rather have running the team right now?
    I know Stubbs didn't look great last year(though he was picking things up at the end.) But what's the issue with Watson?
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Punt.
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky, despite the trade and a lackluster offseason, is still leaps and bounds ahead of O'Brien, who was about as bad a GM as you'll ever see. DanO didn't draft well either. His legacy on that front is already down to three guys, barring any out-of-left-field surprises.
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Krivsky, despite the trade and a lackluster offseason, is still leaps and bounds ahead of O'Brien, who was about as bad a GM as you'll ever see. DanO didn't draft well either. His legacy on that front is already down to three guys, barring any out-of-left-field surprises.
    I am going to disagree. While I will assume you are referring to Bailey, Bruce and Wood as the three, Dano still has Lecure, Milton Loo and Carlos Fisher on the pitching side. He also took Paul Janish, Cody Strait and Drew Anderson as positional players. Then there were Ward and Roberts who were both traded away peices that he drafted that have some future prospects still.

    2005 looks better than 2004 draft wise, but for now they both still have prospects alive from them.

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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Krivsky, and it's not even close.

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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Jury's still out....

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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Jury's still out....
    No, no it's not.

    It may be out deciding Krivsky's true worth, but he's a better GM than DanO. Krivsky took DanO's team and with the help of a few good moves, made them a playoff contender for the vast majority of the season.
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    Re: Dan O'Brien or Wayne Krivsky

    Quote Originally Posted by guttle11 View Post
    No, no it's not.

    It may be out deciding Krivsky's true worth, but he's a better GM than DanO. Krivsky took DanO's team and with the help of a few good moves, made them a playoff contender for the vast majority of the season.
    Playoff contender only becuase the rest of the league was atrocious. If you took the 80-82 record and put it in either of Danos years the Reds would have finished 20 back (05) and 25 back (04) of the division, and 11 back in 04 of the WC and 9 back in 05.


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