I hate to ruin my record by being too optimistic, but this is very exciting news. I am delighted that the Reds recognize how rare it is for a (Reds) team to have two starters of this caliber and that both will be around for awhile.
It really does lead you to believe that ownership and Krivsky are, in their own way, trying to build a winner.
We have great news for anyone who loves bad news.Originally Posted by kbrake
What would You do if I sang out of tune.
Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.
I would stand up and walk out on you.
"couldn't get much worse"
Sure it could. He could have traded Adam Dunn for Jon Lieber.
it's interesting that some of the hardest Krivsky bashers have not stood up and admitted they were wrong. The day is still young though.
I have hated some of his moves and loved others. He was not my first choice, but things are looking up and I can start to see his plan now.
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
What exactly would the "Krivsky bashers" be wrong about? I see people criticizing bad moves and applauding good moves. I see lots of applauding in this thread.it's interesting that some of the hardest Krivsky bashers have not stood up and admitted they were wrong. The day is still young though.
Wrong about what?it's interesting that some of the hardest Krivsky bashers have not stood up and admitted they were wrong. The day is still young though.
I have hated some of his moves and loved others. He was not my first choice, but things are looking up and I can start to see his plan now.
"I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful
My name is RedEye, and I am a hard Krivsky basher.
As a hard Krivsky basher, I will now stand up and admit that the guy does know how to negotiate a contract.
I will also admit that he has been working hard and that he does appear, after all, to have some sort of plan (pitching and defense à la Terry Ryan).
I will now sit down and not admit anything else because I don't think we're out of the woods quite yet, folks. It's not bashing Krivsky to say that the jury is still out.
He's shown a good ability to re-sign our own talent for reasonable prices (Dunn, Harang, now Arroyo). Beyond that, he's still got a lot to prove.
“Every level he goes to, he is going to compete. They will know who he is at every level he goes to.” -- ED on EDLC
I had intended to stay away until mid ST, but the news of the last two days pulled me back in.it's interesting that some of the hardest Krivsky bashers have not stood up and admitted they were wrong. The day is still young though.
I have hated some of his moves and loved others. He was not my first choice, but things are looking up and I can start to see his plan now.
It's a good move, but I'll temper it with the following:
As others have pointed out, contracts are what Kriv does well. It's no surprise that he got Harang signed. It is mildly surprising that he got Arroyo to sign an extension. Props to him that he did so.
But...
Both were kind of obvious moves to make. WK hit the jackpot with Arroyo when he traded for him. He way overpitched any expectations anyone had for him, including Arroyo himself I'd bet.
Now stop signing crappy relief pitchers, over the hill, past their prime relief pitchers, and dreck SP.
Then I'll be really happy.
I'm thrilled one of the best 1-2 combos in baseball is locked up for the next 4 years.
I'm not thrilled that he saw Joe Mays, Sunny Kim, Kyle Lohse and Kirk Saarloos as rotation possibilities.
WK did a good thing twice this week. doesn't erase the bad, but signing existing top tiered talent isn't the same as evaluating top tiered talent. 2006 says Arroyo was a fluke deal in terms of acquisition by WK. Name one other pitcher he acquired that really made an impact for more than 3 weeks.
there Jpup... feel better now that one of us WK bashers has spoken up?
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
Joe Mays had an impact. Granted, it was a negative impact but it an impact nonetheless.
that he has no plan. He obviously does.
"My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton
And that plan is?
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
The plan keeps coming up again
The plan means nothing stays the same
But the plan won't accomplish anything
If it's not implemented
Like it's always been
And it makes me think of everyone
And the cause of this is evident
But the remedy cannot be found
Cause it's so well hidden
This history lesson doesn't make any sense
In any less than ten thousand year increments
Of common sense
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