Turn Off Ads?
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

  1. #1
    Member VR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Vancouver, Wa
    Posts
    8,588

    Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Named as D-Coordinator for my Vikes.....how'd he do in Cincy?
    Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #2
    Making sense of it all Matt700wlw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    26,510

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Marvin booted him.

    I guess that's up to interpretation

  4. #3
    Raaaaaaaandy guttle11's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    4,118

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Who knows...

    Seriously, the talent that was here wasn't very good, so it's tough to tell for sure. I wouldn't expect him to be as good as the last one they had.
    "I saw Wedding Crashers accidentally. I bought a ticket for Grizzly Man and went into the wrong theater. After an hour, I figured I was in the wrong theater, but I kept waiting. Thatís the thing about bear attacks. They come when you least expect it."-Dwight K. Schrute

  5. #4
    Hisssssssss Yachtzee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Land of the Lost
    Posts
    7,261

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    I think his D here was known for its attacking philosophy and risk taking. Sometimes it worked, but a lot of times it gave up the big play. I think Marvin fired him over philosophical issues, as I think Marvin is a more conservative "play your assignment" type coach.
    Burn down the disco. Hang the blessed DJ. Because the music that he constantly plays, it says nothing to me about my life.

  6. #5
    Member forfreelin04's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Zanesville, OH
    Posts
    1,318

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    If Frazier got fired in favor of Chucky Breshnean, your in for a season of pain.

  7. #6
    Member VR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Vancouver, Wa
    Posts
    8,588

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by forfreelin04 View Post
    If Frazier got fired in favor of Chucky Breshnean, your in for a season of pain.
    I've just come off about 6 consecutive seasons of pain, I've got a pretty steep threshold for ineptitude.
    Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand

  8. #7
    On the brink of disaster acredsfan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    627

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    From what i remember Leslie was highly regarded and it came as a shock to the NFL community that Marvin fired him. They just had different systems, and Marvin wanted someone who followed his defensive plans better. Leslie only had one season here, so it's hard to tell any results he created. He coached at Indy so obviously he has to be decent.
    Last edited by acredsfan; 02-09-2007 at 03:56 PM.
    "I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual." -- House

    "You guys are still thinking like doctors when you should be thinking like plumbers. Come on, I wanna see some butt crack." -- House

  9. #8
    Posting in Dynarama M2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    28,193

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Frazier had one of the coolest interceptions I've ever seen back in his playing days. It was the Bears vs. the Raiders and he leapt over the receiver's back (might have been the TE, Todd Christensen), reached down and snagged the ball.
    Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong

    I'm witchcrafting everybody.

  10. #9
    Administrator Boss-Hog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    6,074

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by acredsfan View Post
    From what i remember Leslie was highly regarded and it came as a shock to the NFL community that Marvin fired him. They just had different systems, and Marvin wanted someone who followed his defensive plans better. Leslie only had one season here, so it's hard to tell any results he created. He coached at Indy so obviously he has to be decent.
    Leslie was here for two seasons. From everything I've heard, his defensive philosophy (along the lines of Jim Johnson, who he coached under in Philly) was completely different than Marvin's, which is why I've always wondered why he was hired in the first place.

  11. #10
    On the brink of disaster acredsfan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    627

    Re: Leslie Frazier? thoughts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    Leslie was here for two seasons. From everything I've heard, his defensive philosophy (along the lines of Jim Johnson, who he coached under in Philly) was completely different than Marvin's, which is why I've always wondered why he was hired in the first place.
    One season, two seasons... what the heck, they all run together after awhile. This season we were lucky enough that the players helped us out by being arrested whenever the next month started. Anyway, their styles were definitely different. I wonder how much of his being hired had to do with the FO rather than Marvin himself. They definitely didn't mesh, but that didn't make him a bad D-Co. As far as philosophies, it seems like Marvin prefers athletic types who are versatile which has led to smaller, faster players, other than Sam Adams. That more than anything seems to have hurt the run defense on the team. Just my opinion though.
    "I thought I'd get your theories, mock them, then embrace my own. The usual." -- House

    "You guys are still thinking like doctors when you should be thinking like plumbers. Come on, I wanna see some butt crack." -- House


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25