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    Bengals tag Justin Smith

    BENGALS DESIGNATE JUSTIN SMITH AS FRANCHISE PLAYER



    The Bengals today designated DE Justin Smith as the team’s franchise player, under terms of the NFL’s Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    The franchise tag gives Smith the option to play for Cincinnati in 2007 for a salary equal to the average of the top five defensive ends in the NFL for the previous season (2006 in this case).

    Smith is presently unsigned for 2007, and he will become an unrestricted free agent on March 2 if he does not reach a contract agreement with the Bengals prior to that date. The franchise-player designation means that the Bengals could retain Smith by matching any offer sheet he would sign from another team, and that if the Bengals declined to match a signed offer, the team signing Smith would be required to give the Bengals its first-round choices in the 2007 and 2008 NFL Drafts.

    “We are pleased to designate Justin as our franchise player,” said head coach Marvin Lewis. “He has been a consistent performer and worker. This move helps us keep our core players together, and it gives us an opportunity to continue negotiating for a longer-term contract with Justin.”

    Smith has played all six of his NFL seasons with the Bengals. In 2006, he led the defensive line in tackles (110) for the fifth consecutive season, and he achieved his highest career ranking (second) in the team tackling standings. He had a 50-tackle lead over the second-place lineman (John Thornton). He ranked second on the team in sacks (7.5), and raised his career sacks total to 41.0, ranked fourth all-time on the Bengals. He also had a line-best 4 passes defensed, 1 forced fumble and 1 fumble recovery. He has started 91 consecutive games.

    “The franchise option is designed to help a team retain the rights to a top player,” said Troy Blackburn, Bengals director of business development. “The players’ union supports it because it guarantees that player a salary commensurate with what he has accomplished.”

    The Collective Bargaining Agreement permits a new agreement between Smith and the Bengals to be reached at any time prior to July 15.

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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    Bah.
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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    He's a pretty servicable lineman (In the right situation he might even be a monster), but I don't think he is worth Cincy dropping a tag on him.

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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    Dumb, IMO. He is not a play maker by any stretch.
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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    Who else do they have to tag?
    Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.

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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    Quote Originally Posted by Heath View Post
    Who else do they have to tag?
    Steinbach?

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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    I think Steiny's gone. I hope I'm wrong.

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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    Much rather have seinbach and I'd much rather use $8.6 Million to get Adalius thomas
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    Quote Originally Posted by beb30 View Post
    Much rather have seinbach and I'd much rather use $8.6 Million to get Adalius thomas
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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    Quote Originally Posted by Redhook View Post
    Couldn't have said it better myself.
    Ok, for all the folks that want to use that 8.6 million to get Thomas, what do you do when the Ravens tag Thomas and Smith then walks and you get nothing? Do you hope that some other player who is as good as Smith decides to sign with the Bengals?

    Because that seems to happen every year, oh wait...we get Dexter Jackson and a 400lb Sam Adams who was worth having 4 years ago.

    Smith had 82 tackles as a DE and 7.5 sacks. More tackles than Adalius Thomas, more sacks than Jared Allen and same amount as Alex Brown.

    I do not believe anyone would argue that Smith is worth 8.6 million, but the Bengals need to keep him. He is a very solid NFL DE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye33 View Post
    Ok, for all the folks that want to use that 8.6 million to get Thomas, what do you do when the Ravens tag Thomas and Smith then walks and you get nothing? Do you hope that some other player who is as good as Smith decides to sign with the Bengals?

    Because that seems to happen every year, oh wait...we get Dexter Jackson and a 400lb Sam Adams who was worth having 4 years ago.

    Smith had 82 tackles as a DE and 7.5 sacks. More tackles than Adalius Thomas, more sacks than Jared Allen and same amount as Alex Brown.

    I do not believe anyone would argue that Smith is worth 8.6 million, but the Bengals need to keep him. He is a very solid NFL DE.
    I don't have 2006's top salaries for DEs, but this is from 2005(based on cap value).

    Simeon Rice(10.7)
    Jason Taylor(7.8)
    Darren Howard(7.8)
    Adewale Ogunleye(7.6)
    Reggie Hayward(7.5)

    Last season-
    Simeon Rice(14 tackles, 2 sacks in 8 games)
    Jason Taylor(62 tackles, 13.5 sacks, 9 forced fumbles)
    Darren Howard(35 tackles, 5 sacks)
    Adewale Ogunleye(43 tackles, 6.5 sacks)
    Reggie Hayward(33 tackles, 8.5 sacks)

    Now for Justin Smith-(81 tackles, 7.5 sacks)

    What does this prove?

    All of the top 5 players are overpaid, with the exception of maybe Jason Taylor.

    I would rather have Smith than Steinbach, because at least we have somebody who can step in and replace Steiny in Whitworth. If Smith left, we would have nobody(Adalius Thomas is a pipedream) and we are going to have to worry about replacing the secondary in the draft.
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    Also, for the Cardinals to have franchised Leonard Davis, it would have cost 11 million. Think Steinbach is worth that much?

    This is starting to look like a smart decision.
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    Don't agree with this move. Don't think he's worth the average of the top five at his position. That puts his salary in some elite company.
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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    I think you transition Steiny and Franchise Smith. Steiny will go elsewhere and you get the extra pick to make up for Brooks. Either Smith stays and you have a one season stopgap until a draft pick can take over, or he goes and you get two comp picks, a win win. In this year's defensive FA class, it makes sense.
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    Re: Bengals tag Justin Smith

    More than likely, Smith will either sign a new contract or he will be traded for a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick if they can not work out a new contract.

    People who think the Bengals will just be able to sign Adalius Thomas aren't thinking clearly. The Ravens would be idiotic to not franchise tag Thomas, just like the Patriots are going to tag Asante Samuel. This tag is there so teams keep their best/better players. If Thomas got onto the open market, somehow I do not believe the Bengals would outbid every other team in the NFL.

    Steinbach would have cost even more money from the tag than Smith will. Of course Smith is not worth 8.6 million per year, but the Bengals have players who can fill Steinbachs position better than they currently can fill Justin Smiths.
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