Again, regardless of your feelings on Adam Dunn or Marty Brennaman (both of whom I like -- no, really), if you take a step back and look at this objectively, it continues to be kind of absurd. I honestly have never ever seen a baseball announcer take on such a vocal, prolific and unabashed hatred of one particular player on his own team, or any team. Marty calls a great game and I love to listen to him for the most part. But this just makes his integrity plummet in my opinion. I would feel the same way if Eric Milton was the subject of his diatribes. Even far beyond the fact that his logic is questionable at best, it's just unprofessional.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
Read the way Wayne Krivsky speaks about players on the roster -- even ones he probably wishes he could be rid of -- and compare that to the way Brennaman speaks. One of those two individuals is displaying professionalism, the other is not.
24 Years and Counting...
I'm seriously pulling for Adam to moonwalk to LF on opening day...or perhaps lead the team in doing the "hustle" during 70's night.
Nothing to see here. Please disperse.
Originally Posted by vaticanplum
From David Halberstam's book October 1964
It was not always easy for Ken Boyer playing in St. Louis. The other Cardinal players believed that Harry Carey, the immensely popular local announcer, rode Boyer unfairly. For much of his career, Boyer was booed at home, and the source of that booing, the other Cardinal players were sure, was Carey. There was an edge there and Boyer's teammates and his brother Clete believed it came from a moment when Carey was broadcasting a game on the road at the Los Angeles Coliseum and was doing it from field level. He wanted to experiment by doing an interview with Boyer during the game. Boyer had said no, not during the game, perhaps when the game was over. They had apparantly exchanged harsh words, and the Cardinal players believed that Carey had been hard on Boyer ever since. In fact, one of Bob Uecker's best early imitations was of Harry Carey sticking it to Ken Boyer: "Well, here's the Captain, Ken Boyer. Boyer haaaaaaaaasn't had an RBI in his last fifty-two games.... I don't understand why they continue to boo him here at Busch Stadium.... Striiiiiiiike one, he doesn't eeeeeven take the bat off his shoulder... here's striiiiiiike two... and strike three.... He nevvvvvver even took the bat offfff his shoulder. I don't know why they're booing him." None of this ever seemed to bother Boyer. It was as if, as far as he was concerned, the booing and the needling from Carey went with the paycheck.
The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.
Marty Brenneman says dumb things about Adam Dunn, but I'm guaranteeing that anyone that agrees with him would have before he said it. There is a large mass of fans that still care a ton about K's and the like. What does that mean then? The guy doesn't hurt the fan base and people should just ignore it, IMO.
You shouldn't place him on the pedestal of the GM that makes decisions on a players future and his contract. That's not even close to comparable.
Sorry for edits.
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This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.
What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?
All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.
Ever heard of: "One hand washes the other?"
Or, in Marty's case, "One hand repeatedly tries to bash the other hand with a hammer?"
Marty comes off sounding like an idiot and one of the Reds' most prominent figureheads routinely bashing his team's best player can't be anything other than bad for business. It does not help the value or "Q" of the Cincinnati Reds franchise.
It's not that they were simply making fun of us, it's that they were lying--insisting that this was the truth, that they were serious.
I have always blamed the 2 angry guys, but haven't been sure it was them.
Sorry to go off topic.
Burn down the disco. Hang the blessed DJ. Because the music that he constantly plays, it says nothing to me about my life.
Baseball is such a mental game that such a simple thing as hustle can spread an attitude of professionalism. Look at past world series winners they were led by hard nosed 'gamers'. Braves had Maddux,Glavine, etc. Yankees with Jeter. Schilling with the Bosox and the Dbacks. Guys who take intensity to the ballpark every single day - or at least present that arua to opponents, fans, and teammates.
Dunn could have been a leader of this team for the past five years but hes never took the role despite his charisma and super offensive stats. Younger players cant respect a guy who presents that dont care attitude. It wouldnt kill him to run to leftfield and if he needs to save energy by not running 80 yards then he needs a serious offseason conditioning program.
Marty has been critical of several players over the years. This just bothers people so much because they think Dunn is above reproach. Its magnified when you hear it about Dunn. I remember hearing John Ward (former UT Vols announcer) criticize Peyton Manning many many times for his leadership abilities his first couple years and those teams were like 10-1 or 9-2 . Thats part of an announcers job, to report what he sees on a daily basis.
Ill agree running to the outfield does not alter Dunn's stats one bit, but it does help set a team tone. The talent levels in pro sports are so close that often its about who wants to take it, who wants to win more. Im not saying Dunn doesnt want to win, but he could present a more positive image for the younger players and the organization alike.
If you are important enough to the team that someone is actually criticizing your hustle, then your hustle really does matter to the team.
Someone should find Dave Miley and ask him where he put Dunn's chair. Get that chair back and throw some wheels on it. I'd want to see the grounds crew wheel Dunn out to left field in his chair during the 7th inning stretch while everyone else sings Take Me Out to the Ballgame.
Kevin Gregg and Jason Marquis will bring back memories of the Lost Decade.