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    Quote Originally Posted by Betterread View Post
    I would like to see the Reds correct their organizational lack of young catchers - starting by drafting 2 catchers in the first 5 rounds - pick the best College catcher and the best HS catcher on your list (that way they will play at different levels so both will get playing time).
    Pitching is needed, as always, and I hope good pitching is emphasised in early round selections.
    I am not a fan of drafting a catcher anywhere in the top 5 rounds. Drafting catchers makes drafting a pitcher look successful. Here is the list of players drafted as catchers between 1996 and 2000.
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    Name	         AB	H	2B	3B	HR	BB	K	PA	Notes
    Brandon Inge	2406	581	116	24	71	195	561	2672	316 of 728 games at catcher
    Robert Fick	2176	567	110	11	67	216	344	2437	178 of 2176 games as catcher
    Matt Lecroy	1368	358	67	1	60	123	328	1519	120 of 469 games at catcher
    Yadier Molina	937	223	47	1	16	62	91	1033	
    Josh Bard	744	201	44	1	22	68	119	816	
    Jayson Werth	721	177	39	6	25	87	232	825	Never played a MLB game as a catcher
    Gerald Laird	474	126	30	2	10	31	107	520	
    J.D. Closser	447	107	21	3	10	50	93	506	
    Ryan Doumit	380	90	22	1	12	26	90	435	
    Jason Grabowski	301	59	8	1	11	33	85	335	
    Rob Bowen	131	27	5	0	4	17	40	153	
    Koyie Hill	117	27	7	0	1	13	35	132	
    Brandon Harper	41	12	3	0	2	4	4	46	
    J.R. House	19	2	1	0	0	0	4	19	
    Mike Tonis	6	0	0	0	0	1	0	7	
    Dane Sardinha	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	5	
    Jeff Bailey	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Edgar Cruz	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Camron Hahn	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Johnny Hernandez	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Tony Lawrence	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Giuseppe Chiaramonte	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Brian Jenkins	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Jeff Winchester	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Jeff Goldbach	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Sammy Serrano	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Gabe Johnson	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Mike Dean	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Ryan Bundy	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Kennon Mcarthur	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Raynier Cardona	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Ryan Christianson	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Nick Trzesniak	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    James Perez	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Will Hartley	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    DrewMcMillan	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Jorge Soto	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Russ Jacobson	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Jon Kessick	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Dominic Woody	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Chris Jaile	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Scott Heard	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Robert Stiehl	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Dave Parrish	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Jared Abruzzo	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Scott Walter	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Omar Falcon	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Tommy Arko	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Brandon Wilson	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Jason Belcher	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Brian Esposito	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Brad Cresse	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    David Kenna	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Lee Evans	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Vidal Candefaria	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Josh Mcaffee	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Brian Loyd	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Tucker Batt	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Bobby Brito	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	
    Josh Pugh	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
    So, there were 60 catchers drafted between 1996 and 2000, and just 4 of them have even gotten 1000 plate appearances. That is 6.6%. Personally, I would let someone else draft and develop a catcher and trade for or sign a FA catcher before I would waste a top 5 round pick on one.

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Interesting data Doug, it gives one pause. I do wish to note that the 2001 draft (which was not in your survey) yielded current star C Joe Mauer, and projected regular C starters, Jeff Mathis and Kelly Stoppach in the first two rounds.

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by Betterread View Post
    Interesting data Doug, it gives one pause. I do wish to note that the 2001 draft (which was not in your survey) yielded current star C Joe Mauer, and projected regular C starters, Jeff Mathis and Kelly Stoppach in the first two rounds.
    I stopped at 2000 so that HS kids had reasonable time to get to the majors. 2001 draftees out of HS are just now turning 24/25ish.
    Mauer, is undoubtedly a star.
    Mathis however has a nice .561 OPS this spring, and didn't exactly tear it up in AAA last year (.289/.333/.430). He is still quite young and can improve. He won't turn 24 until the last day of March.
    Shoppach will be 27 at the end of April and has 125 games in the majors with an OPS of .605. Until he shows something worth while at the plate in the majors, he is just an old guy feasting on young guns in the minors. And lets be realistic....would you want to waste a first or second round draft pick if you knew 5 years later you would have Kelly Shoppach?

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    If the catcher turns out real good they'll end up moving to 1st base anyeway
    2006 Redszone Prospect Draft - Johnny Cueto
    2007 Redszone Prospect Draft - Pedro Viola, Alexis Oliveras
    2007 Redszone Mock Draft - 1st (27) Michael Burgess, Supp. (60) Wes Roemer, 2nd (92) Barry Enright, 3rd (122) Jonathan Bachanov
    2009 Redszone Mock Draft - 1st (9) Shelby Miller, 2nd (58) Marc Krauss, 3rd (89) Daniel Fields

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    I'm starting to get extremely interested in Nick Schmidt. Then again, I'm a sucker for tall lefty pitchers.
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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=2824289&action=login& appRedirect=http%3A%2F%2Finsider.espn.go.com%2Fmlb %2Finsider%2Fcolumns%2Fstory%3Fcolumnist%3Dlaw_kei th%26id%3D2824289

    New list from Keith Law.

    1. Matt Wieters, C (Georgia Tech)
    2. David Price, LHP (Vanderbilt)
    3. Andrew Brackman, RHP (North Carolina State)
    4. Rick Porcello, RHP (Seton Hall Prep, West Orange, N.J.)
    5. Josh Vitters, 3B (Cypress (Calif.) High School)
    6. Phillippe Aumont, RHP (Ecole Secondary Du Versant, Gatineau, Quebec)
    7. Matt Harvey, RHP (Fitch High School, Groton, Conn.)
    8. Jason Heyward, OF/1B (Henry County High School, McDonough, Ga.)
    9. Justin Jackson, SS (Roberson High School, Asheville, N.C.)
    10. Matt Dominguez, 3B (Chatsworth (Calif.) High School)
    11. Ross Detwiler, LHP (Missouri State)
    12. Michael Burgess, OF (Hillsborough High School, Tampa, Fla.)
    13. Michael Main, RHP (Deland (Fla.) High School)
    14. Blake Beavan, RHP (Irving (Texas) High School)
    15. Daniel Moskos, LHP (Clemson)
    16. Matt Mangini, 3B (Oklahoma State)
    17. Neil Ramirez, RHP (Kempsville (Va.) High School)
    18. J.P. Arencibia, C (Tennessee)
    19. Tanner Robles, LHP (Cottonwood High School, Salt Lake City)
    20. Madison Bumgarner, LHP (South Caldwell High School, Hudson N.C.)
    21. Jack McGeary, LHP/1B (Roxbury (Mass.) Latin High School)
    22. Mitch Canham, C (Oregon State)
    23. Josh Fields, RHP (Georgia)
    24. Casey Weathers, RHP (Vanderbilt)
    25. Jake Arrieta, RHP (TCU)
    26. Brett Cecil, LHP (Maryland)
    27. Julio Borbon, OF (Tennessee)
    28. Nevin Griffith, RHP (Middleton High School, Fla.)
    29. John Tolisano, SS/2B (Estero (Fla.) High School)
    30. Yasmani Grandal, C (Miami Springs High School, Hialeah, Fla.)
    31. Eric Eiland, OF (Lamar High School, Houston, Texas)
    32. Greg Peavey, RHP (Hudson's Bay High School, Vancouver, Wash.)
    33. Josh Smoker, LHP (Calhoun (Ga.) High School)
    34. Peter Kozma, SS (Owasso, Okla.)
    35. Beau Mills, 3B/1B (Lewis-Clark (Idaho) State)
    36. Mike Moustakas, 3B/C (Chatsworth (Calif.) High School)
    37. Jordan Walden, RHP (Grayson County CC, Texas)*
    38. Aaron Poreda, LHP (San Francisco)
    39. Nick Noonan, SS (Francis Parker High School, San Diego)
    40. Zach Cozart, SS (Ole Miss)
    41. Tim Alderson, RHP (Horizon High School, Scottsdale, Ariz.)
    42. Christian Colon, SS (Canyon High School, Anaheim, Calif.)
    43. Josh Donaldson, C (Auburn)
    44. Nick Schmidt, LHP (Arkansas)
    45. Wes Roemer, RHP (Cal State Fullerton)
    46. James Simmons, RHP (UC Riverside)
    47. Kyle Russell, RF (Texas)
    48. Matt Latos, RHP (Broward County CC, Fla.)**
    49. Eddie Kunz, RHP (Oregon State)
    50. Jarrod Parker, RHP (Norwell (Ind.) High School)
    51. Matt Spencer, OF (Arizona State)
    52. Joe Savery, LHP (Rice)
    53. Ryan Dent, IF (Long Beach Wilson High School, Calif.)
    54. Kentrail Davis, OF (Theodore (Ala.) High School)
    55. Matt LaPorta, 1B (Florida)
    56. Kevin Keyes, OF (Connally, Austin)
    57. James Adkins, LHP (Tennessee)
    58. Julian Sampson, RHP (Skyline High School, Wash.)
    59. Danny Rams, C (Gulliver Prep, Miami)
    60. Nathan Vineyard, LHP (Woodland High School, Emerson, Ga.)

    * Walden is under control as a draft-and-follow to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    I'd love someoen like Ross Detwiler (Big Tall lanky lefty) to fall to the Reds at 15 and then see them pick up Yasmani Grandal at 37. Savery at 52 would be nice as well. His stock has fallen quite a bit and I think he could be a sneaky pick.

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    Everyone from Texas interests me.

    Seriously, I've liked what I've read about Detwiler.

    They list Greg Peavey at #32. I don't think he's any relation to Jake Peavy, but isn't Jake Peavy's younger brother supposed to be in the draft this year? Maybe they spelled Greg's last name wrong?
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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader View Post
    They list Greg Peavey at #32. I don't think he's any relation to Jake Peavy, but isn't Jake Peavy's younger brother supposed to be in the draft this year? Maybe they spelled Greg's last name wrong?
    From the looks of it, it doesn't look like they are related

    http://www.aflacallamerican.com/2006...dex.cfm?id=158

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    From the looks of it, it doesn't look like they are related

    http://www.aflacallamerican.com/2006...dex.cfm?id=158
    Ugh. That dude looks like a pure soccer player. (Not that there's anything wrong with that)

    I swear I remember that Jake Peavy had a younger brother going into the draft this year. I'll have to look into that.
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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Does anyone know if BA listed the top farms systems for 2007?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Yes the Reds ranked 12th, they said that the Reds were top heavy, with depth being an issue.

    Top 5:

    1. Devil Rays
    2. Rockies
    3. Diamondbacks
    4. Angels
    5. Yankees
    7. Brewers
    18.Cubs
    19.Pirates
    22. Astros
    23. Cardinals
    Last edited by New Fever; 04-09-2007 at 06:18 PM.

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by New Fever View Post
    Yes the Reds ranked 12th, they said that the Reds were top heavy, with depth being an issue.
    I cannot find this even on the BA site. Is the list premium? Can you give me the link?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Premium list

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    Re: Anyone got info on the top 2007 draft prospects?

    Quote Originally Posted by New Fever View Post
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    I'm not so sure. I'm not an Insider and I accessed it off of a search from Yahoo!. However, if I'm wrong, I'll edit it.


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