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    Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton
    BY JOHN FAY | JFAY@ENQUIRER.COM

    SARASOTA, Fla. - Reds CEO Bob Castellini made his first visit to camp Friday.

    Castellini had made a side trip to the complex in January when he was in Sarasota for Vern Ruhle's funeral service.

    During the January visit, Castellini got an idea why the Reds' front office was so happy to be able to select Josh Hamilton in the Rule 5 Draft and why he was worth the $50,000 investment.

    "He was hitting the ball in the lake," Castellini said. "It was 60 mph off Johnny Narron, but ..."

    The lake in question is behind the Reds' batting cage, which is behind the fence in right field on Field 4. It's a 500-foot poke - at least.

    "Then he was throwing the ball from the 401-foot mark to home plate. The guy has unbelievable talent," Castellini said.

    The question is how Hamilton will do against major-league pitching for really the first time and after basically a three-year layoff from baseball because of drug suspensions and injuries.

    It should be noted that Hamilton hit one out to left-center off Brian Shackelford during live batting practice.

    But, back to Castellini. He was upbeat as usual.

    "You feel the confidence," he said. "The team chemistry is good. They discovered last year that they could contend. The team exudes the feeling that they can do it."

    11 PITCHERS: Reds manager Jerry Narron talked about the possibility of keeping only 11 pitchers.

    He was talking up the club's plethora of versatile players.

    "It helps a great deal, and to maybe even at some point help where we can go with 11 pitchers instead of 12," he said. "I know everybody thinks we're going to carry 12. It probably looks that way. If we can keep as many versatile guys as we can, we can carry 11 guys.

    "You all write that, and there's going to be some nervous pitchers."

    Having more versatile guys would seem to allow a team to carry more pitchers. But what Narron is saying is if you have versatile guys, you have more opportunities to use them.

    The whole conversation started when Narron was talking about Jeff Conine's role.

    "He'll play a lot of first base, the outfield, coming off the bench," Narron said. "He's a guy that you know you can bring in to pinch hit off a left-handed pitcher, and they bring in a right-hander, he's still going to give you a good at-bat. The numbers are going to show he's as good at hitting right-handers as left-handers."

    Conine and Adam Dunn are the only outfielders that Narron said are limited as far as position - Conine can play right or left; Dunn will play exclusively in left.

    Conine is Narron's type of player.

    "He's a guy that I always admired and respected when I was on the other club with the way he went about his business," Narron said. "I don't know if he remembers, but I told him a few years ago that, as a baseball person, I appreciated the way he went about his business."

    HOPPER OUT: Outfielder Norris Hopper will miss the next four days of workouts. He's going to New Jersey to attend the funeral of his maternal grandmother.

    ON THREE CATCHERS: The Reds carried three catchers all of last season. Narron didn't sound committed to that when asked about Chad Moeller.

    "He's got a chance to make the club," Narron said. "He gives us great depth. Every pitcher who's ever thrown to him likes throwing to him."

    http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.d...702240375/1071

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    I feel this article clinches it for me Hamilton makes the team regardless of how he does in spring training. Hamilton>Moeller

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    It's a 500-foot poke - at least.
    Hott.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Conine is Narron's type of player.
    You don't say.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    I know that Hamilton is a real long shot and that he needs more time in the minors, but I am really starting to think that if the reds bring him north, he won't be a total waste of a roster spot that many of us (me included) assumed he would be. I like this pick-up and he could be a real help in a year or two.

    I'd really like to see the Reds send some of its interchangeable parts (there are too many to keep anyway) and get the right to send him to the minors. I think he could be a real stud in 2009 or so and he, Bruce and Votto could be a real force (with EE and Dunn). But I want them to send him down so he can develop moreso than because I think he'd be a waste this year. He's a better bet than the McCrackens, Wises and Hollandsworths of the world have been. He's a better bet than 3 catchers. He's a better bet than many 25th guys around baseball.

    I haven't liked many of the moves this year, but this could be a real good one IMO. He was a number 1 overall pick way back when for a reason.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Hamilton > Norris Hopper

    Even after a 3 year hiatus.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    It should be noted that Hamilton hit one out to left-center off Brian Shackelford during live batting practice.
    Good to see the pen is in mid season form.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D View Post
    Good to see the pen is in mid season form.

    Great one liner.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    I had Hamilton sign a MLB baseball for me at Spring Training about six years ago. Here's to him making it...or else that's a really nice baseball wasted.
    For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    During the January visit, Castellini got an idea why the Reds' front office was so happy to be able to select Josh Hamilton in the Rule 5 Draft and why he was worth the $50,000 investment.
    Umm... Mr. Fay, it was a $100,000 investment.
    "...You just have a wider lens than one game."
    --Former Reds GM Wayne Krivsky, on why he didn't fly Josh Hamilton to Colorado for one game.

    "...its money well-spent. Don't screw around with your freedom."
    --Roy Tucker, on why you need to lawyer up when you find yourself swimming with sharks.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Conine can play right or left
    I'd say Conine can play a little 1B. His OF days are long behind him.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    But John Fay says he's our fourth outfielder.

    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland View Post
    But John Fay says he's our fourth outfielder.

    That would mean Freel or Deno is not on the team. Can you imagine an OF of Dunn, Griffey and Conine?

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    Fay thinks Deno needs a big ST to make the team.

    :all_cohol
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Re: Count Castellini among fans of Hamilton

    A backup outfield of Conine, Hamilton, and Hopper. I can't wait!!


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