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    Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    As much grief as some have given Krivsky..."The Trade" being the lightning rod and deservedly so...

    With Hamilton, albeit premature, looking to be an improvement to the roster and maybe a big-time improvement isn't this proof that WayneK keeps a solid eye for potential talent laying on other rosters that we can pick up for beans?

    1 and 2. Phillips and Ross last year for nothing.
    3. Arroyo for a talented but excess player for an arm we sorely needed.
    4. I have to give him credit for Hatteburg at 500k last year. The guy was solid and fit the role we needed on this team to a tea.

    Now Hamilton looks to be added to that list of great finds. I'm intrigued to see if Sarloos can pick it up this year and be a steal for our pitching-starved rotation.

    I think the job WayneK has done has been very solid thus far. A few warts on the pitching evaluations, but more positives then negatives for the team so far. The next biggest item is how do WayneK's drafts turn out for the future and then we'll have the best idea of where we are.

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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    And both Thom Brennaman and Jeff Brantley were raving about the pick up of Bobby Livingston during today's game. I think this is going to be an intriguing year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    And both Thom Brennaman and Jeff Brantley were raving about the pick up of Bobby Livingston during today's game. I think this is going to be an intriguing year.
    That's what is so exciting about this year. There are a lot of question marks this year, but most are GOOD question marks:

    When is Homer/Votto going to bust in on the scene?
    Is Josh Hamilton for real? He could absolutely explode this year to be a stud.
    Adam Dunn, another batting coach, a new determination.
    How will Jay Bruce mature at the next level?
    Who is this Bobby Livingston? Is this another steal?

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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    Usually wins are not that important in Spring Training, but a team like the Reds with many question marks it can only help. This is a great time of year. With the NCAA tourney , baseball and Spring right around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col_ IN Reds fan View Post
    Usually wins are not that important in Spring Training, but a team like the Reds with many question marks it can only help. This is a great time of year. With the NCAA tourney , baseball and Spring right around the corner.
    FWIW - the Reds won the most ST games in baseball last year and finished below .500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    FWIW - the Reds won the most ST games in baseball last year and finished below .500.
    True, but the Reds used the momentum from Spring Training and had a great month of April which put them in contention for most of the year.
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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    I hope so.

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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    What has impressed me most on Hamilton is ...he is doing alot of this against lefties.
    As far as Livingston...they were telling his minor league stats today and as they said, it's hard to figure a team letting him get away.

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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    Quote Originally Posted by jmac View Post
    What has impressed me most on Hamilton is ...he is doing alot of this against lefties.
    As far as Livingston...they were telling his minor league stats today and as they said, it's hard to figure a team letting him get away.
    It was a given at the time that the Mariner's were nuts, but this is probably the last year for the M's G.M. after doing so many stupid things.

    He's desperate right now. I'd try to make a deal with the M's and see what we could pluck from the organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Davis View Post
    It was a given at the time that the Mariner's were nuts, but this is probably the last year for the M's G.M. after doing so many stupid things.

    He's desparate right now. I'd try to make a deal with the M's and see what we could pluck from the organization.
    This same team let..

    Rafeal Soriano go for Horactio Ramirez (What the ??)

    Chris Snelling and a young pitcher go for Jose Vidro (Okay, enough already)

    Yorman Bazardo go for next to nothing to the Tigers. (again..didnt the M's NEED pitching??)

    Only thing Bavasi (spelling) has done right was let Meche walk..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodave View Post
    This same team let..

    Rafeal Soriano go for Horactio Ramirez (What the ??)
    The Ms are convinced he has chronic arm problems and will never be a starter. They have a ton of young arms for the bullpen waiting in line and didn't like Soriano's lack of velocity in winter ball. So they traded a guy they consider to be a big injury risk who is filling a role they have a surplus for in order to fill a huge need. The criticism with this isn't that they traded Soriano, it's that they should've gotten more. I dunno. People aren't really trading good starters are they? If they were, Dunn wouldn't still be a Red.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodave View Post
    Chris Snelling and a young pitcher go for Jose Vidro (Okay, enough already)
    As an Ms fan, this broke my heart. That being said, Snelling is liable to blow out his knee for the billionth time just getting out of bed. This wasn't a smart move (mostly because of payroll issues) but it pales in comparison to things like Young's extension. In other words, other GMs have done much stupider things recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodave View Post
    Yorman Bazardo go for next to nothing to the Tigers. (again..didnt the M's NEED pitching??)
    Absolutely brilliant move. Bazardo is garbage. guys who project to be league average middle relievers are as rare as air.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dracodave View Post
    Only thing Bavasi (spelling) has done right was let Meche walk..
    I dunno.... Betancourt, Johjima, the extension for Ibanez, kicking Everett to the curb, trading Moyer when he did, the way Felix was handled, signing Beltre (yes, contrary to uninformed opinion, Beltre was a good signing), the Garcia trade, non-tendering Pineiro, trading Eddie.... It seems to me there have been alot of good moves made on his watch too.... By the way, the team has improved 15 games since his first year and this with the farm system being left in shambles by Gillick....

    I'm a huge Ms fan and I'm not a Bavasi fan or apologist....but if you're going to dump on him, at least do it with context.
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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    While I am rooting for Hamilton I still think it may be a bit early to add him to the roster. If he keeps hitting at a .500 clip as we get further into the Spring Training...He's in!

    In addition to Livingston the one player that Special K has picked up that I am really intrigued with is Saarloos...4 quality pitches and working on a 5th...he is the one that has me the most curious.
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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    While I am rooting for Hamilton I still think it may be a bit early to add him to the roster. If he keeps hitting at a .500 clip as we get further into the Spring Training...He's in!

    In addition to Livingston the one player that Special K has picked up that I am really intrigued with is Saarloos...4 quality pitches and working on a 5th...he is the one that has me the most curious.
    He'll be on the roster. They're not going to lose him after going through all this hullabaloo.
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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    I have to chime in on Livingston....the guy makes Joe Mays look like a fireballer. He tops out at about 86 MPH. I just cant see him being a very productive MLB pitcher when he cant even get to the high 80s with his fastball.

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    Re: Has WayneK pulled another rabbit out of the hat

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I have to chime in on Livingston....the guy makes Joe Mays look like a fireballer. He tops out at about 86 MPH. I just cant see him being a very productive MLB pitcher when he cant even get to the high 80s with his fastball.

    I agree he was on the wavier wire for a reason.


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