Well if Marty and Brantley (he's brutal..have you seen him?) say good things about somebody, then it must be true!! Ugh.
Well if Marty and Brantley (he's brutal..have you seen him?) say good things about somebody, then it must be true!! Ugh.
2006 Redzone mock Draftee's- 1(st) Daniel Bard(redsox), 1(st sup)( Jordan Walden (Angels), 2(nd) rd.- Zach Britton(Orioles), 3(rd) Blair Erickson(Cardinals), 3(rd) Tim Norton( Yankees),(cuz its a Tim Hortons thing
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
[QUOTE=RFS62;1255003]Yep. He's a compelling story, right out of Hollywood if it goes best case scenario.
But we're a long way from that point. It sure is fun to watch.
Thank God they're playing games again.
Hamilton's hitting some actual advanced pitching. I truly believe he is going to make the roster as the 5th outfielder due to the fact he will not be exposed to be sent back to Tampa. best case scenario is he gets maybe 125 at bats and lots of instruction and late game action in blow outs. I personally am comfortable with that . It is a gamble sure but hey the Kid has a ton of talent and so far it is just an awesome feel good story.
2006 Redzone mock Draftee's- 1(st) Daniel Bard(redsox), 1(st sup)( Jordan Walden (Angels), 2(nd) rd.- Zach Britton(Orioles), 3(rd) Blair Erickson(Cardinals), 3(rd) Tim Norton( Yankees),(cuz its a Tim Hortons thing
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
Don't get me wrong. Movement is a good thing, but only if it is in the strike zone. Some guys can get away with things moving out of the zone, but those are usually real hard throwers who don't give hitters enough time to react.
If Saarloos can throw strikes and not fall behind in the count, he can be OK. You are right about the league change, that could provide a real bump for him in 2007.
Off the top of my head, there are several who don't throw particularly hard yet have been successful. These guys are not all lefties, though.
Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Tim Wakefield, Paul Byrd, Woody Williams, Trevor Hoffman, Chris Capuano, Mike Maroth, Livan Hernandez, Orlando Hernandez, Doug Davis... and I'm sure there are more.
"I am your child from the future. I'm sorry I didn't tell you this earlier." - Dylan Easton
Greg Maddux could hit 95 in his prime.
Glavine at least throws in the high 80s.
Wakefield is a knuckleballer....
Hoffman also could hit 95 in his prime.
Williams throws in the low 90s.
Byrd is a good example of someone who throws in the mid 80s consistantly.
Capuano tops out at about 90.
Maroth is another good example.
Livan is also a good example.
Orlando hits 90 at times.
Doug Davis sits about 84-86 like Livingston does.
I guess what I am looking at is the number of guys who throw their fastballs in the mid 80s have very little chance to be successful. I am not going to hold my breath on Livingston.
If Josh Hamilton pans out, and becomes a big time player (down the road)...could turn out to be the biggest steal in KrivDogg's career.
Judging by what I have read on alot of sites.
Everyone is comparing Livingston to Moyer. There is also one thing that strikes me as very good about Livingston. His interviews before his call up last year he mentioned he knew was never going to be a flamethrower, so instead he focused time on the mound to ADJUST to the hitters he was facing. He started learning where to throw to get them out.
Too me that's an intanigable that is really going to help him in the national league. If Livian or Doug can have a succesfull career, and live in that number 3-5 slot in a rotation, than I am positive that Livingston can. Plus, Livingston is 23/24.
I dont see why everyone is complaining, he once again is a cheap innings eater, even if he is league average.
"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled."
-Hunter S. Thompson
Heres the article.
That was enough to make me go "sounds good to me"
"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled."
-Hunter S. Thompson
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Rob Neyer: "Any writer who says he'd be a better manager than the worst manager is either 1) lying (i.e. 'using poetic license') or 2) patently delusional. Which isn't to say managers don't do stupid things that you or I wouldn't."
I think you are forgetting the Devil Rays got him then traded him to Philly.
Wayne say the error and claimed him for the Reds.
Thats how we got Bobby. So atleast one other team did want him, Philly. Who by the way, HAS Jamie Moyer. Think letting that rub off on a younger version was their idea?
No wait, can't be...because Bobby sucks already.
"For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled."
-Hunter S. Thompson
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