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    I like Santos

    I hope he makes the squad

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    Re: I like Santos

    Anyone got the 411 on Santos? Wasn't he a decent starter a few years back? I seem to remember him having decent stuff and I'm wondering whether he's more of a legit candidate for #5 starter or closer than we realized.
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    Re: I like Santos

    Santos is a good bet to pitch better than Saarloos.
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    Re: I like Santos

    santos pitched decently for the buco's as the 5th starter just didn't provide them many innings thats why they let him go

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    Re: I like Santos

    Personally, I don't see much in the way of upside...high HR rates, runs (earned or no) allowed in bunches, mediocre GB%, and lots of baserunners. Was strafed badly enough in Pittsburgh last season; I don't foresee success pitching in our ballpark especially considering the ghastly .361/.412/.558 line he allowed to righties last season.

    His historical reverse splits (.255/.328/.417 vs LHB, .311/.367/.493 vs RHB from the last 3 seasons) and a poor handful of innings out of the bullpen last season suggest he wouldn't handle a bullpen role well, and that is the primary role for the fifth man until mid-May.

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    Re: I like Santos

    Santos hasn't been effective since his rookie year in Detroit. Maybe he can turn into an effective reliever for us.

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    Re: I like Santos

    Victor Santos...

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    Santos has good heat and generally has command over his stuff.

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    Right-handed hitters pound him and he struggles from the stretch. Also needs to build endurance as a starter.

    Career potential
    An average late-rotation starter or middle-reliever.
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     ERA W  L  GP  GS  CG ShO SV  IP  H  R  ER  HR  BB  K 
     5.14 22 42 150 84 1 0 0 539.0 604 346 308 71 246 377
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    Re: I like Santos

    So if "Santos has good heat", do you all think he could work as a closer or a set-up man?
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    Re: I like Santos

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    So if "Santos has good heat", do you all think he could work as a closer or a set-up man?
    from reading articles from last season from the Pirates web-site, i'd say no...he's very Ramon Ortiz like in that regard.
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    Re: I like Santos

    Santos = Esteban Yan

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    Re: I like Santos

    Flaws
    Right-handed hitters pound him and he struggles from the stretch. Also needs to build endurance as a starter.
    Righties "pound" him. That's always promising.

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    Re: I like Santos

    Quote Originally Posted by boognish View Post
    especially considering the ghastly .361/.412/.558 line he allowed to righties last season.

    His historical reverse splits (.255/.328/.417 vs LHB, .311/.367/.493 vs RHB from the last 3 seasons) and a poor handful of innings out of the bullpen last season suggest he wouldn't handle a bullpen role well, and that is the primary role for the fifth man until mid-May.


    Santos so far this ST looks like D. Wise (from '06 ST) but a pitcher's version. I wouldn't be getting my hopes up just yet. Pitchers are always considered to be closer to form before the season's beginning. Besides his career splits vs RH hitters is horrendous. I honestly hope he is sent down to Louisville or traded at the peak of his peak performance for whatever we could possibly to get for him (low level prospect maybe). We have too many young guys that could put up the same if not better numbers than Santos with an actual upside ie: Belisle, Livingston, Lizard, Saarlos or, Salmon.
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    Re: I like Santos

    Classic AAAA pitcher. Send him to L'Ville or let him go.

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    Re: I like Santos

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalls View Post
    Classic AAAA pitcher. Send him to L'Ville or let him go.
    The Reds wouldn't have many pitchers left on the roster if they sent out all the AAAA guys.


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