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    Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Was asked on ESPNews who he thought could come out of nowhere to be a star this year and he named Josh Hamilton. Said he could start in center field...

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Amazing. Josh Hamilton doesn't even play for the Red Sox or Yankees. How'd Gammons even know he exists?
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Not to be un-kind to Mr. Gammons, and I won't, he did suffer a brain injury last fall. I think he is recovered, except a little weakness on the the left face, and I respect his opinion. I think it's a good call, welcome back Mr. Gammons, best wishes for your continued recovery and we hope you are right.

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Quote Originally Posted by fargo55 View Post
    Not to be un-kind to Mr. Gammons, and I won't, he did suffer a brain injury last fall. I think he is recovered, except a little weakness on the the left face, and I respect his opinion. I think it's a good call, welcome back Mr. Gammons, best wishes for your continued recovery and we hope you are right.
    I remember him saying last summer after he came to that he was reading the sports page and saw something about Austin Kearns and the Nationals. He turned to his wife and asked, "How'd Austin Kearns get on the Nationals?".

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Gammons has always been very infatuated with Hamilton. He used to rave about him years ago. I remember that he wrote a bit on Hamilton several years ago saying he was "going through a Todd Marinovich type hell".
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Gammons has always been very infatuated with Hamilton. He used to rave about him years ago. I remember that he wrote a bit on Hamilton several years ago saying he was "going through a Todd Marinovich type hell".
    Somebody else brought him up too. What was Todd's story?

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

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    Somebody else brought him up too. What was Todd's story?
    Very overbearing, pushy parents. Here's a list of his legal troubles. Go to Wikipedia.com to check out the rest of his positives and negatives.


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    Marinovich has had several run-ins with the law, most of which have been related to his ongoing drug problems. He was arrested in 1991, while still a student at USC. In 1997 he was arrested on suspicion of growing marijuana and served three months in jail after pleading guilty. In April 2000, Marinovich was arrested for sexual assault[2], followed by a 2001 arrest on suspicion of heroin possession, which forced his exit from the Avengers.

    In August 2004, Marinovich was stopped for skateboarding in a prohibited area. He was arrested after he was found to be carrying an amount of methamphetamine and three syringes. He pleaded guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 90 days in jail and three years probation.

    Marinovich was arrested in a public bathroom in Newport Beach, California in May 2005, after being found with apparent drug paraphernalia. He fled on a bicycle, but was caught a few blocks away. He gave his occupation as "unemployed artist" on the police report.[3] He was ordered to undergo six months of drug rehabilitation followed by six months of outpatient treatment as a result.[4]

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Quote Originally Posted by AvesIce51 View Post
    Somebody else brought him up too. What was Todd's story?

    Basically his dad controlled everything he did when he was a kid. For example, he couldn't eat cake at another kid's birthday party because it had refined sugar in it. Todd wasn't allowed to eat fast food at all because it wasn't good for him. Todd's dad, Marv, was basically trying to make Todd into an NFL QB literally from the cradle. Now who knows if Todd would have turned out the same had Marv been a normal father but one could make an argument that once Todd got a taste of freedom from his dad, he did all the things he wasn't allowed to do and went overboard. Perhaps the same could be said about Josh.
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Basically his dad controlled everything he did when he was a kid. For example, he couldn't eat cake at another kid's birthday party because it had refined sugar in it. Todd wasn't allowed to eat fast food at all because it wasn't good for him. Todd's dad, Marv, was basically trying to make Todd into an NFL QB literally from the cradle. Now who knows if Todd would have turned out the same had Marv been a normal father but one could make an argument that once Todd got a taste of freedom from his dad, he did all the things he wasn't allowed to do and went overboard. Perhaps the same could be said about Josh.
    Todd had a younger brother who was being raised the same way, I wonder how he turned out?
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    Todd had a younger brother who was being raised the same way, I wonder how he turned out?

    Good question. Whenever there's a discussion on what are the reasons a person turns out like they do, I think of a joke that Lenny Bruce once told Larry King:

    One of the great arguments of all time is between the environmentalists and the geneticists. The geneticist says, The way you're raised is the way you'll be. Here's a story that maybe doesn't give you the answer but shows you the complexity of the question.

    "A family goes to Yellowstone National Park on vacation - mother, father, and three children. On the way back to Los Angeles the parents look in the back of the car and, Holy Jesus! They forgot the one-month-old kid. Hey, it happens. You gotta clean up, gotta worry about Smokey the Bear, so they leave the kid.

    "They're halfway home, and now here's the dilemma. If they turn back to get the kid, the father blows his sales meeting in the morning, the monthly sales meeting for the May sweep at the car dealership. He'll never get that day back, but he can always have another kid. They go on to L.A. and they leave the kid in the park, and the kid is raised by wild dogs for eighteen years. One day the dogs, in a fit of logic, realize they've done wrong and that the kid doesn't belong with them, so they leave him out on a highway and split. Now this kid, who's spent one month as a human child and seventeen years and eleven months as a dog, is picked up by a passing motorist. The kid enrolls in the University of Chicago, graduates Phi Beta Kappa. Valedictorian. He's called the most promising student in Chicago in ten years and is hailed by the president of the university as a young man with an unquestioned future. And bam! One day he's killed chasing a car."
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Funny, in the fantasy report from the USA today they didn't even list Hamilton. They had the OF and the depth chart and he's nowhere to be found. Funny how things can happen quickly. I'm starting to think there might be something special here. He for sure had IT a few years ago and now he's motivated with IT so watch out!
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    I think the kid is the real deal. Patience at the plate, good power, nice speed, plays great D. I still shake my head that he can do it all after 4 years off. Now that he is getting some positive media attn. maybe more Zoner's will stop being so cautious about Hamilton. The wait and see attitude is old the kid can flat out play.

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Gammons was on SC this past weekend and said that Hamilton is, BY FAR, the best story of the spring. He and most everybody in the league is rooting for this kid because, "Never once has he blamed anyone but himself. I not only think he'll stick (when the Reds break camp), but very possibly be the starting CF'er on Opening Day!"

    I normally am not the biggest PG fan, as he's a terrible homer for the BoSox, but kudos to him. I know we all are pulling for JH!

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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    The only thing that may jinx this for Hamilton now is that Peter Gammons spoke it...
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    Re: Peter Gammons calls Josh Hamilton a potential future star..

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    The only thing that may jinx this for Hamilton now is that Peter Gammons spoke it...
    But Steve Phillips badmouthed him, so it evens out.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."


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