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    Thoughts at the End of the Night

    If Josh Hamilton is this good after four years off, how good could he have been after only two years off?

    Paging Jeff Allison. Mr. Allison, please pick up the courtesy phone.

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    For every Josh Hamilton, there's a Toe Nash.

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    There's only one Toe Nash.

    (Thank God.)

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    Mr. Hamilton's spring has allowed several Red hitters to bask in the glow of the underappreciated. Yes, that's Brandon Phillips among the league leaders in homers. Yes, Mr. Dunn is hitting well over .400.

    And yes, that's Ken Griffey, Jr., taking alternative field BP.

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    Heard today that meal money for major leaguers is $150. $150! Per day! Where are you eating that you spend $150 a day? On food!? It's a miracle all professional ballplayers don't look like Orca. (And this is my main gripe regarding fat pitchers. The food is there, people. Pile on the gravy! Don't stint on the second and third helpings of mashed potatoes! It's okay-- America wants you... No needs you... to be larger than life. Ask David Wells. He knows.)

    Plus, when you're cut, your meal money drops to $15 a day. I'd be swimming in butter for that, especially considering the post-game buffet and the constant snack food available. Imagine what you could have done on $15 a day meal money in college. Aldi would have feared me.

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    Is there anything more disheartening than seeing a pessimist discount Spring Training games?

    It's like kicking a puppy with only one leg.

    (You should always use both legs when kicking a puppy.)

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    We interrupt this posting to inform our readers of breaking news. Mark Bellhorn finally made a play defensively. News reports are sketchy, but it appears he was actually able to put glove to ball and throw the opposing runner out at a base.

    Novel idea, that.

    Speaking of defense. Has anyone noticed how much better Cincinnati plays up the middle? Three DPs turned today and a number of ground balls turned into two outs previously. With his limited pop and phenomenal glove, AGon might be an unsung player on an emerging team. He may not hit the 25 homers Brantley has forecasted, but 15-20 and a Gold Glove caliber SS is worth twice what Wayne K paid, IMO.

    He solidifies the entire IF, allowing Phillips to shade more toward 1B, hiding Hatteberg's slowness afoot. Too, with the range EdE displays nightly, more balls up the middle should be turned into outs. Looking forward to that, for sure.

    OF D, too, has been better. Hamilton's a gifted player, with speed, an incredibly high baseball IQ, and a cannon for an arm. Hopper, Denorfia, Freel, Crosby, and Gil are all well above average defensive OFs as well. Even Dunn's been solid.

    Junior in RF, IMO, should also turn out above average. His is the highest baseball IQ on the team and the jumps he gets on balls are still fun to watch. Too, although his arm is slightly weaker than an established RFer, he's extremely accurate and smart enough to know when to gamble. Those CF instincts should also allow him to cover ground forward and drifting back.

    There's a lot to like there.

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    This just in: Junior has not played and very little has been written on the subject.

    Is this good? Bad? Expected? Discuss.

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    New Cincinnati Reds' Spring Training slogan: Our scrubeenies are better than yours.

    Seriously.

    Red scrub lineup
    Janish SS
    Hopper LF
    Hamilton CF
    Votto 1B
    Denorfia RF
    Keppinger/ Bellhorn 2B
    Gil 3B
    Moeler C

    Rotation
    Wilson
    Ramirez
    Burton
    Bailey
    Livingston

    Bullpen
    Hermanson
    Lightenberg
    Coutlangus
    Santos

    Add in Crosby and subtract Hamilton's gaudy ST numbers if you want.

    Is it any wonder the Reds are winning?

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    There is no truth to the rumor that Randy Johnson could be the father to the entire starting eight of the Arizona Diamondbacks.

    It just seems that way.

    Stephen Drew is going to be a star. Chad Tracy, in another era of hot cornermen, would have been. Connor Jackson looks very good. As does whichever Chris Young is patrolling CF.

    That team is rivalling the Brewers for best collection of young talent in the majors right now.

    But, of course, no one has anyone rivalling Mr. Hamilton.

    Or Toe Nash.

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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Heard today that meal money for major leaguers is $150. $150! Per day! Where are you eating that you spend $150 a day? On food!? It's a miracle all professional ballplayers don't look like Orca. (And this is my main gripe regarding fat pitchers. The food is there, people. Pile on the gravy! Don't stint on the second and third helpings of mashed potatoes! It's okay-- America wants you... No needs you... to be larger than life. Ask David Wells. He knows.)

    Plus, when you're cut, your meal money drops to $15 a day. I'd be swimming in butter for that, especially considering the post-game buffet and the constant snack food available. Imagine what you could have done on $15 a day meal money in college. Aldi would have feared me.

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    Not to mention they have pre and post game food available for them at the park!

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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    This just in: Junior has not played and very little has been written on the subject.

    Is this good? Bad? Expected? Discuss.
    This is reminiscent of Junior's mysterious knee injury of '06.

    For those who don't remember:

    April 12: Junior leaves game with "tightness" behind knee.

    "It didn't really bother me. It just tightened up a little bit. That was it," Griffey said after the Reds' 4-1 loss to the Cubs.
    April 16: Griffey misses his 4th game in a row.

    "He's available to pinch-hit, he's just not available to run," Narron told MLB.com on Sunday.

    "Some people think it's worse than we're letting on, and if it was worse than we're letting on, he wouldn't be here," Narron said. "Seriously, it's day-to-day with him and we'll see what Dr. [Timothy] Kremchek says tomorrow when he sees him, why he's got that tightness."
    April 17: Griffey goes on DL.

    "It's as much a precautionary thing," general manager Wayne Krivsky said. "It's not anything serious. According to the doctor, he could be playing in a day or two, but we'd rather be safe at this time of year."
    May 11: Griffey is activated from DL.

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    15 bucks would have been good for a week's meal consisting of non-brand name Ramen Noddles in college. Per Day? Pizza.
    150 would have bought a lot of Ramen Noddles - the fancy ones actually made by Ramen - plus some salt and butter to put on top. Per Day? Lots of pizza.

    For the most part, that scrubs lineup could be our lineup in a few years, plus (Bruce) or minus (Moeller) a couple of players.

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    Yeah. Mom and Dad gave me $10 a week during college, and out of that I was expected to spend $3.50 for a bus ticket home every weekend. I figure I could eat at Ruths Chris 3 times a day on $150.

    Brantley proclaimed AGon and Phillips the best DP combo in baseball. It's a little early to make that statement, but it could happen.

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    Heard today that meal money for major leaguers is $150. $150! Per day!
    That must be a change in the latest CBA. Previously the per-diem was $73. (Which is still a lot of meal money.)
    Speaking of defense. Has anyone noticed how much better Cincinnati plays up the middle? Three DPs turned today and a number of ground balls turned into two outs previously.
    That's certainly a welcome development. Your post reminds me of something in John Fay's blog. I'll let the assembled masses read it.
    Quote Originally Posted by John Fay
    Kevin Kelly's covering today. I'm on Opening Day section duty. But I wanted to make a point about defense and why the Reds invested $14 million in Gonzalez to play short.

    Chris Aguila started the second with a smash up the middle. Gonzalez went to his left, went down to his knees to stop it, popped up and threw out Aguila easily. Good enough play to get a star on the old scorebook.

    But what happened afterward shows how defense can pay. Milton struck out the next hitter. But Jose Hernandez doubled. Had Aguila reached, he would have scored. Don Kelly followed with a single. If Aguila would have reached, it would have been one out and runners at first and third, instead of two outs. That allowed Milton to pitch around the eighth hitter, then get the pitcher to escape without damage.
    Oh, really John? Is that what glovemen do? Make outs? Shorten innings? Suppress scoring? Thanks for the insight.

    Still, you gotta love the guy. It's like he's slowly figuring that game out right in front of our eyes.
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    "That allowed Milton to pitch around the eighth hitter, then get the pitcher to escape without damage."


    I hope that's just John Fay's opinion. Because if any major league pitcher is pitching around an 8th hitter in a spring training game he should be drawn and quartered.

    Sandy Koufax used to consider any opportunity to get the last out with the 8th place hitter to be crucial. It starts the next inning off with the pitcher, and easy out.

    I sure hope that was just Fay's observation, and not Milton's.
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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    Sandy Koufax used to consider any opportunity to get the last out with the 8th place hitter to be crucial. It starts the next inning off with the pitcher, and easy out.
    I hope Milton does that everytime with 2 men on base (pitch around 8 hitter). Rather have him get out of the inning with 0 runs, than try to get the 8 hitter out and possible give up more runs.

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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    I hope that's just John Fay's opinion. Because if any major league pitcher is pitching around an 8th hitter in a spring training game he should be drawn and quartered.

    Sandy Koufax used to consider any opportunity to get the last out with the 8th place hitter to be crucial. It starts the next inning off with the pitcher, and easy out.
    Steve Charlton felt the same way.
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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    If your Koufax and Carlton you should go after the #8 hitter in that situation.

    If you are Milton you probably should pitch around them and get to the pitcher.

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonelong View Post
    If your Koufax and Carlton you should go after the #8 hitter in that situation.

    If you are Milton you probably should pitch around them and get to the pitcher.

    GL

    Exactly my thought as I read the Koufax comment. Milton doesn't need to let his ego over run his oh so limited talent.

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    The only things I ever have to worry about spending money on are rent and food. Having half of that covered by something outside my salary is unfathomable to me. So what, exactly, are they spending their millions on?
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    So what, exactly, are they spending their millions on?
    It's easy to get carried away after a few drinks in a strip club.

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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    The only things I ever have to worry about spending money on are rent and food. Having half of that covered by something outside my salary is unfathomable to me. So what, exactly, are they spending their millions on?

    Bling, cars, houses, wives and/or girlfriends, families, agents, posse, taxes. I think the houses take a big chunk of that. Look at Arroyo. He has a house in BOS a house in FLA and a condo in Cincinnati. I think he's renting out the house but even a house and a condo is still going to be expensive.
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    Re: Thoughts at the End of the Night

    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    The only things I ever have to worry about spending money on are rent and food. Having half of that covered by something outside my salary is unfathomable to me. So what, exactly, are they spending their millions on?
    I think that it is customary for junior baseball players to pay for the meals of the more tenured players that they dine with, and for more senior players to use their per diems as (large) tips for the clubhouse staff.


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