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    Hamilton's Contract?

    If...and yes I say if....Hamilton is a star/useful player, what will his contract situation be. Is arbitration still in the cards or will he be a free agent sooner than we think. I have no clue where his contract stands...help please.

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    Josh Hamilton of
    1 year (2007)

    * signed 2/07
    * acquired in trade (from Chicago Cubs) 12/06
    * drafted # 3 (from Tampa Bay) in Rule 5 draft 12/06
    * sent outright to minors 11/05
    * suspended indefinitely 3/04 for violations of MLB substance abuse policy
    * drafted 1999 (1-1), $3.96M signing bonus
    * agent: Casey Close
    * ML service:

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Josh Hamilton of
    1 year (2007)

    * signed 2/07
    * acquired in trade (from Chicago Cubs) 12/06
    * drafted # 3 (from Tampa Bay) in Rule 5 draft 12/06
    * sent outright to minors 11/05
    * suspended indefinitely 3/04 for violations of MLB substance abuse policy
    * drafted 1999 (1-1), $3.96M signing bonus
    * agent: Casey Close
    * ML service:
    All that tells me is he has a one year contract...right??? I was looking for how long the Reds control him, sorry for the vague question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    All that tells me is he has a one year contract...right??? I was looking for how long the Reds control him, sorry for the vague question.
    They control him for at least 3 years, maybe more. At the cost they and the market determine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    They control him for at least 3 years, maybe more. At the cost they and the market determine.
    I'm assuming he's really asking how long before he's a FA. That would be 6 years, assuming he never spends time in the minors.

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    I would guess that he's going to be like any other rookie with the standard options available to them. What is that now, two years before arbitration and then three of arbitration? We've got him for a bit, I believe.

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    Rookie with no major league time. The Reds control him for six years.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Rookie with no major league time. The Reds control him for six years.
    If this guy turns out to be a diamond in the rough as opposed to pyrite, it will have been a stunningly good move. I'll be keeping my digits crossed.

    More and more it looks to me like last season's deadline trade was an outlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie-a-go-go View Post
    If this guy turns out to be a diamond in the rough as opposed to pyrite, it will have been a stunningly good move. I'll be keeping my digits crossed.

    More and more it looks to me like last season's deadline trade was an outlier.
    I'm starting to agree with you. Although I have been among Wayne's harshest critics for The Trade, many recent moves have proven that he does not have his head in the sand all the time. Does he have a coherent plan? Maybe not yet. But I'm starting to think he'll have one soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I'm starting to agree with you. Although I have been among Wayne's harshest critics for The Trade, many recent moves have proven that he does not have his head in the sand all the time. Does he have a coherent plan? Maybe not yet. But I'm starting to think he'll have one soon enough.
    He has a plan he just doesn't feel compelled to tell every Tom, Dick and Harry what it is. That's my take. In all honesty he doesn't have to tell "us" what it is. He runs the show and he'll do it the way he knows how. I think Wayne has shown that he's in charge and he'll steer left or right how he sees fit. If someone besides Castellini doesn't like that, well...tough. Fans will come out as long as the Reds are competitive. Hopefully attendance will be a bit better this year. Shameful that so many great games down the stretch required so much hype to get anybody to come down to GABP.
    It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    Shameful that so many great games down the stretch required so much hype to get anybody to come down to GABP.
    6 year of below .500 will do that to a fan base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Clark View Post
    He has a plan he just doesn't feel compelled to tell every Tom, Dick and Harry what it is. That's my take. In all honesty he doesn't have to tell "us" what it is. He runs the show and he'll do it the way he knows how. I think Wayne has shown that he's in charge and he'll steer left or right how he sees fit. If someone besides Castellini doesn't like that, well...tough. Fans will come out as long as the Reds are competitive. Hopefully attendance will be a bit better this year. Shameful that so many great games down the stretch required so much hype to get anybody to come down to GABP.
    People rip on Wayne Krivsky for making "pointless" deals on all the time, and I just do not understand it.

    Sure, more of his "junk" deals turn out to be nothing (Ryan Franklin, that pitcher from the Rockies, etc.), but what did we give up in those deals? Anything of substance? At all? The worst of those deals was the Cormier one because we gave up Germano (not gonna lose sleep) and we gave Cormier an extension. Other then that, none of these deals hurt us.

    Then look at the "garbage deals" that turned out VERY well. Brandon Phillips (PTBNL), David Ross (PTBNL), Scott Schoenwies last year even if was only for a year, Josh Hamilton (200K).

    There's 4 moves right there, 3 of which will help us out this year. There are probably more then that too.

    Then people talk about the Castro signings add up and make up a big part of our payroll. Well first of all, money hasn't been an issue since Cast got here. Obviously we aren't the Yankees, but if there is a move that needs to be made money isn't going to affect him. The money were are paying "roster fillers" isn't hurting us NEAR as much as the $20 million we are paying the pitcher with a 5+ ERA and the CF who plays bad D, had a barely .300 OBP last year, and who is always hurt.

    Wayne is like a college student shopping at the salvation army. He spends a dollar and buys a crap load of clothes there. Alot of the time he comes out with something he buys and thinks "why the hell did I buy that", but then there are times where he says "i look fly in this". His flyness is most definatley out-wieghing the crap right now.
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    3 years before arb really. It's based on your arb at end of season and he won't be in the 2+ group till after his 3rd season
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Can't we restructure it so he can go down to the minors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Can't we restructure it so he can go down to the minors?
    Not without Wily Mo's permission.


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