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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    I wouldn't worry about this lineup until it shows up on game day. Considering that Narron used 140 lineups in '06, the lineup in this article is bound to come up on the roulette wheel at some point.
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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    I was hoping for something more along the lines of:

    1. Freel
    2. Hatteberg
    3. Dunn
    4. Encarnacion
    5. Griffey
    6. Phillips
    7. Ross
    8. Gonzalez

    The line-up that Narron seems to be proposing is awful and insane. Having your best hitters in the 5-6 slots is not smart.
    Dunn's lifetime OPS in the 3rd spot is .828. He's a #5 or #6 hitter to me. My lineup would be this

    1. Freel
    2. Hatteburg
    3. Encarnacion
    4. Griffey
    5. Dunn
    6. Phillips
    7. Ross
    8. Gonzalez

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland View Post
    I kinda like today's ST lineup:

    Ryan Freel CF
    Adam Dunn LF
    Brandon Phillips 2B
    Ken Griffey Jr. RF
    Edwin Encarnacion 3B
    Joey Votto 1B
    Alex Gonzalez SS
    David Ross C
    Bronson Arroyo P

    Swap in Hatte for Votto, and that looks like a winner to me.
    Of course with Hatte back, he could go to #2 and Dunn drop down to #6
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Rose
    Griffey
    Morgan
    Foster
    Perez
    Bench
    Conception
    Gerronimo
    Seaver

    and a time warp machine...

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by doug flynn View Post
    Rose
    Griffey
    Morgan
    Foster
    Perez
    Bench
    Conception
    Gerronimo
    Seaver

    and a time warp machine...
    Of course Perez was gone by the time Seaver came along...
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by Handofdeath View Post
    Dunn's lifetime OPS in the 3rd spot is .828. He's a #5 or #6 hitter to me. My lineup would be this
    I really don't read into that a whole lot. I think the key thing is having a good hitter like EE behind him, and he should do fine.

    I think he needs to be in the 2-4 slots. No reason for your best hitter to be in the 5+ slots.

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    I really don't read into that a whole lot. I think the key thing is having a good hitter like EE behind him, and he should do fine.

    I think he needs to be in the 2-4 slots. No reason for your best hitter to be in the 5+ slots.
    I don't think the Reds look at him as the best hitter. When the heat's on it's EE. If the Reds thought that highly of him they would probably have locked him by now long term. How those here at Redszone view Dunn and how the Reds organization and the rest of baseball view him are not necessarily going to be in the same way. And you can say that about any player.

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by geniusMoment View Post
    Per Fays blog this is one lineup Narron is considering for the season opener:

    Freel
    Hatteberg
    Phillips
    Griffey
    Encarnacion
    Dunn
    Ross
    Gonzo
    Worst

    Lineup

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    Phillips @ anything but the 6th is no good

    Dunn @ anything not 3-5 is criminal

    7 and 8 are pretty accurate though. If either of those bat anything but 7 or 8, then Narron's head should be served on a platter to the Cincinnati Reds' faithful.

    Wow.

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    I was hoping for something more along the lines of:

    1. Freel
    2. Hatteberg
    3. Dunn
    4. Encarnacion
    5. Griffey
    6. Phillips
    7. Ross
    8. Gonzalez

    The line-up that Narron seems to be proposing is awful and insane. Having your best hitters in the 5-6 slots is not smart.
    Swap Denorfia with Freel, and that's a lineup we need to see 150+ games in 2007.

    Even if we have to suffer Freel as an everyday, that's still probably the best lineup available if Hamitlon isn't "deemed" a starter.

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by tixe View Post
    That lineup is way too obvious. otoh, the Cubs would never expect the Reds to hit Phillips third....that has to be it--the element of surprise. Sneak up on them.
    No one ever expected the Spanish Inquisition.

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by Handofdeath View Post
    Dunn's lifetime OPS in the 3rd spot is .828. He's a #5 or #6 hitter to me. My lineup would be this

    1. Freel
    2. Hatteburg
    3. Encarnacion
    4. Griffey
    5. Dunn
    6. Phillips
    7. Ross
    8. Gonzalez
    3 yr ave OPS in the 3 spot .928. With that said....

    My Opening Day Reds
    1 Freel CF
    2 Dunn LF
    3 Encarncion 3b
    4 Griffey RF (and hope last year was an aberation)
    5 Hatteberg 1b
    6 Phillips 2b
    7 Ross C
    8 Gonzalez

    Dunn's 3 yr OPS batting 2nd is .989 the kicker for me though is he's a .308 hitter with an obp of .424. Until he proves he can get the Sac Fly, base hit rbi consistantly he's a huge #2. Batting him any lower than 4 minimalizes any value he brings because below that they will always walk him when they can to get to some average joe.
    Last edited by Slyder; 03-27-2007 at 02:01 PM.

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Why can't Hamilton lead off? I think he would get on base more than Freel and it has been suggested that he has some good speed and can steal. Why is Freel or Denorfia better at leadoff than Hamilton?
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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    He's never swung a bat in a major league game would be one reason.
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    He's never swung a bat in a major league game would be one reason.
    Neither has Alex Gordon

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    Re: Horrible Lineup news

    Quote Originally Posted by 5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM View Post
    Neither has Alex Gordon
    Alex Gordon hit .325/.427/.588 last year in AA in his first year of pro ball after winning the Collegiate Player of the Year Award. Josh Hamilton has less than 100 plate appearances in pro baseball in the last 3 years... including spring training.


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