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    Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Considering the numbers game the Reds have for the fifth spot in the starting rotation and in the bullpen, I think this is more of a creation of the Boston media. But with Wayne K., you never know.

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    Scouts from several teams have been monitoring the right-hander, whose role was shifted to middle or set-up innings following Jonathan Papelbon [stats]ís recent return to closer. The Cincinnati Reds, who are leaning toward selecting Dustin Hermanson as closer from a pool of journeyman relievers, may be the best fit. Signed for only one year at $4 million (plus the possibility of an additional $2 million in incentives based on games finished), Pineiro most likely would fit into Cincinnatiís tight budget.



    The right-hander was scheduled to pitch an inning in yesterdayís 12-6 win over the Florida Marlins at City of Palms Park, but was forced to throw instead on a back field after the game because of the length of starterJosh Beckett [stats]ís outing (seven innings). Brendan Donnelly (one inning, no runs) and J.C. Romero (one inning, five runs) were the only Sox relievers to see action.

    Pineiro struggled with his consistency earlier this spring as he got comfortable with a new, more compact delivery, but he has pitched well lately and has tossed 8 scoreless innings over his last seven Grapefruit League appearances. Hermanson, meanwhile, signed with the Reds midway through camp but appears to have overtaken David Weathers and Mike Stanton in the Redsí battle for closer. The 34-year-old has missed significant time in three of the past five years because of injuries and was limited to only six relief appearances last season for the Chicago White Sox.
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Because the Reds already don't have enough candidates for their bullpen?

    What?

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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Because the Reds already don't have enough candidates for their bullpen?

    What?
    Wayne will never have enough arms in the bullpen. It's becoming a very disturbing trend.

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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    I didn't think that offseason free agent signings were eligible to be traded until like June 1st or something?

    Wasn't Pineiro signed by BOS as a free agent?
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader View Post
    I didn't think that offseason free agent signings were eligible to be traded until like June 1st or something?

    Wasn't Pineiro signed by BOS as a free agent?
    That only applies if the player doesn't want to be traded.
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    lets give them MILTON and half his salary in a deal for Pinerio

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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by blumj View Post
    That only applies if the player doesn't want to be traded.
    Well, that's nice.

    So, it's a rule in place, but the player gets to decide if he wants to be traded or not, and if not, that superseeds the rule? Geez. Nice deal by the players union.
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader View Post
    Well, that's nice.

    So, it's a rule in place, but the player gets to decide if he wants to be traded or not, and if not, that superseeds the rule? Geez. Nice deal by the players union.
    Basically the CBA stipulates that free agent signings come with an automatic no trade clause until the following June.... I guess I don't think thats such a bad thing.
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader View Post
    Well, that's nice.

    So, it's a rule in place, but the player gets to decide if he wants to be traded or not, and if not, that superseeds the rule? Geez. Nice deal by the players union.
    Well, it does make sense. The only reason to have the rule in the first place is to protect players, as the whole point of free agency is to give players freedom of choice. If the team can trade them right away against their will, the freedom of choice only lasts for as long as it takes to sign the contract. But, if the team wants to trade a player, and the player wants to be traded, who's the rule protecting?
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Joel Piniero would be a huge upgrade over many of our current pitchers.

    He could be used as anything between our #3 SP or Closer.

    Not sure what we could give them that they actually need for Piniero, but I really hope Krivsky is taking a good look at him if he's truly attainable.

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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Wasn't Piniero considered a good pitcher a few years back? What in the world happened to him?

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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    I'd get him, as long as it doesn't take any real talent.
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Joel Piniero would be a huge upgrade over many of our current pitchers.

    He could be used as anything between our #3 SP or Closer.

    Not sure what we could give them that they actually need for Piniero, but I really hope Krivsky is taking a good look at him if he's truly attainable.
    Ugggghhhhhh.....he's a junk pitcher with command issues...

    Wasn't Piniero considered a good pitcher a few years back? What in the world happened to him?
    I have no idea....he gained about 4 mph on his fastball and burst on the scene out of nowhere and then he lost his velocity after the '03 season..... It's an absolute puzzle.
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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Ugggghhhhhh.....he's a junk pitcher with command issues...

    We have plenty of those, and he'd certainly be better than our current crop.

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    Re: Reds Interested In Piniero?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Ugggghhhhhh.....he's a junk pitcher with command issues...



    I have no idea....he gained about 4 mph on his fastball and burst on the scene out of nowhere and then he lost his velocity after the '03 season..... It's an absolute puzzle.
    He's a decent gamble, and if we can pawn off milton in the process. I'm for it.

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    It appears 2005/2006 the whells just came off. I'd give him a try based on the fact that he has shown decent stats in past. It could very well be pitching through injury (See Eddie and JJ Putz).
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