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    My wishful thinking top four for the job at this point:

    1. Pearl
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    4. Izzo
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    I despise those guys and many of the egotistic talking heads at ESPN but they were right. Hey, maybe they don't hate Kentucky as much as Cats fan attest and in fact they were just taking an unbiased look in assessing the situation.

    Yep. I don't think Vitale hates any school. I think he loves them all. You see him every year on the selection show and he says all the teams on the bubble should get in. He would probably let every team in if he were boss. He may have a lot of love for Duke but I don't think that means he hates UK or any other school. I think fans get their hackles up when the talking heads speculate that so and so won't go to their school. It's not because that they hate that school but they just objectively believe that that coach won't go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cincy jacket View Post
    My wishful thinking top four for the job at this point:

    1. Pearl
    2. Caliparri
    3. D'Antoni
    4. Izzo
    Why do UK fans want D'Antoni? He has never coached in college so he has no experience recruiting and you would have to wait until after the NBA playoffs to offer the job to him. Its tough to sign recruits 2 months before the fall semester.

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    What rankled me about Dicky V recently was his continued worship of Tubster when the program had been declining for the past five or so seasons. He totally ignored all the stats demonstrating how UK was no longer a top-tier program and just kissed Tubby's *** like it was his job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    What rankled me about Dicky V recently was his continued worship of Tubster when the program had been declining for the past five or so seasons. He totally ignored all the stats demonstrating how UK was no longer a top-tier program and just kissed Tubby's *** like it was his job.

    So what. The man's entitled to his opinion. He's a national announcer and he probably thinks that what Tubby accomplished there was good enough for anyplace but UK. And if UK is no longer an elite program, why would Donovan even go there? No wonder Donovan didn't go to UK.
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    Yeah he's entitled to his opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion of why I consider him a dumb boob.

    UK will always be an elite basketball school. The UK bball program under Tubby was no longer elite. BIG difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
    "Cheering for Kentucky is like watching Star Wars and hoping Darth Vader chokes an ewok"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    He's a national announcer and he probably thinks that what Tubby accomplished there was good enough for anyplace but UK. And if UK is no longer an elite program, why would Donovan even go there? No wonder Donovan didn't go to UK.
    If he thinks that what Tubby accomplished there was good enough for anyplace but UK, he is dead wrong. What Tubby accomplished at Kentucky would not have been good enough at Duke, North Carolina, or Kansas, for starters, and possibly other places, as well. If UK is no longer an elite program, then who has been responsible for that lowering of status?

    I'm not pointing these questions at you, Chip, but rather at those who defend Tubby on one hand and delcare that UK is no longer an elite program on the other.

    I'm pretty disappointed by Donovan's decision, but oh, well...

    Like I said earlier, there was no guarantee that Donovan would win two titles at Kentucky, and there's no guarantee that someone else won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macro View Post
    If he thinks that what Tubby accomplished there was good enough for anyplace but UK, he is dead wrong. What Tubby accomplished at Kentucky would not have been good enough at Duke, North Carolina, or Kansas, for starters, and possibly other places, as well. If UK is no longer an elite program, then who has been responsible for that lowering of status?
    Excellent post and well-stated, Mac, 100% agreed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Tom Izzo
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    Tom Crean
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    I think UK has some decent options if those guys are available. I'm not sure that most of those guys wouldn't be just as good.
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    Re: Billy Donovan and UK...

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
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    What do you mean by that, Dab?
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Yep. I don't think Vitale hates any school. I think he loves them all. You see him every year on the selection show and he says all the teams on the bubble should get in. He would probably let every team in if he were boss. He may have a lot of love for Duke but I don't think that means he hates UK or any other school. I think fans get their hackles up when the talking heads speculate that so and so won't go to their school. It's not because that they hate that school but they just objectively believe that that coach won't go there.
    Dick Vitale just loves college basketball - how people still hate him when its clear what he does is not an act, not some schtick, its genuine love for the game, the kids, the coaches.

    I used to hate him too - thought he was annoying. But when I realized that was him (and how genuine he was about Jimmy V) I turned the corner and now I just love when he calls a game I wanna watch.

    Plus Billy Packer is jealous of him, so big props there!
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    Re: Billy Donovan and UK...

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    What do you mean by that, Dab?
    Career .614 winning %, according to UT's website, (compared to Tubby's .733). I think he's not such a good game coach.

    Fine recruiter. No denying that.
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    WilyMo was spot on, Dickie V is in fact, a dumb boob


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