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    Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilton

    Doesn't mean much, but interesting to note. Perhaps with the articles we heard about Junior saying "I work in Cincinnati" and his frustration with the media over the move from CF, he would be open to a trade at the deadline to a contender?

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    how does Hamilton win the comeback player of the year? He never had any major league success.

    ROY would make more sense. If he has any kind of year I'm sure he would get plenty of votes.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    how does Hamilton win the comeback player of the year? He never had any major league success.

    ROY would make more sense. If he has any kind of year I'm sure he would get plenty of votes.

    He's gone from "elite prospect status" to "in the gutter" to "elite prospect staus" I guess. It's actually quite a comeback when you consider it, but certainly not in the conventional sense.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    He's gone from "elite prospect status" to "in the gutter" to "elite prospect staus" I guess. It's actually quite a comeback when you consider it, but certainly not in the conventional sense.
    It is certainly a "comeback" of sorts, but is the award not reserved for players that have stumbled at the major league level (either due to a bad year or injury). It's a comback in the sense of returning to glory. Hamilton has never really been there at the major league level.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Sweeney has the same problem as Jr. does, he's got a high priced contract but he never plays because he's always hurt. He's not going anywhere.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    At this point, if the contender were desperate enough, that might work for us.
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    He forgot GM of the year.....that one goes to Krivsky if he convinces someone to take Griffey and his remaining $29M (assuming a buyout of '09).
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    He forgot GM of the year.....that one goes to Krivsky if he convinces someone to take Griffey and his remaining $29M (assuming a buyout of '09).
    The Reds will never be able to get someone to pay the deferred part of Griffey's contract, nor would they realistically try.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    And for the 5th consecutive season, the "biggest name traded at deadline" award goes to....Ken Griffey Jr!!!

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    It is certainly a "comeback" of sorts, but is the award not reserved for players that have stumbled at the major league level (either due to a bad year or injury). It's a comback in the sense of returning to glory. Hamilton has never really been there at the major league level.

    If Hamilton has a reasoable year (whatever that means), he'll have made a major comeback.

    The award is reserved for those that have comeback. While it's normally been given to those that have been successful at the major league level, it wouldn't surprise me if Hamilton could win it.

    His comeback would be of monumental proportions and would, IMO, be consistent with the spirit of the award.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    He forgot GM of the year.....that one goes to Krivsky if he convinces someone to take Griffey and his remaining $29M (assuming a buyout of '09).
    The sad part is if Griffey can remain healthy or if Krivsky can convince another team Griffey can remain healthy, the salary isn't that much any more. Today's baseball world gives approximately the same money to mediocre players like Gary Matthews Jr., Gil Meche, etc. It would actually be a bargain if Griffey produced at his full potential at the salary he's making. If Griffey can find a way to stay healthy I don't see a reason why the Reds couldn't only just move him but could actually get something decent in return.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    The Reds will never be able to get someone to pay the deferred part of Griffey's contract, nor would they realistically try.
    thats not the deferred part.....
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Manager most in trouble: Clint Hurdle, Rockies.
    That should read "Jerry Narron"

    Although, there should be zero debate, Narron should be gone during the year, or at the latest, at the end of the year.

    At least I can hope.

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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    how does Hamilton win the comeback player of the year? He never had any major league success.

    Agreed. Derrek Lee is a likely candidate for the comeback award. Hamilton is a good candidate for the come award.
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    Re: Ken Rosenthal predicts Griffey dealt at trade deadline; Comeback award for Hamilt

    Hamilton cannot win comeback player as he has no Major League career to comeback to. He could win Rookie of the Year. Grady Little having averaged 92 wins with teams with MASSIVE payrolls is supposed to make him Manager of the Year?

    Griffey will not be traded unless he wants to be, which is not likely, if the Reds can even sniff a playoff spot.
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