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    Re: David Ross

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    I don't know Red Leader. It was a horrible play. But yank the guy? I think that would be counter productive.
    Maybe I'm being a little too thick headed about this because I was a former catcher (as is Narron), but that just can't be tolerated. i could almost guarantee you that if I would have made that same play at any level I played, I would have been yanked out of the game. In fact, I can remember being yanked out of a game in high school, as a freshman, for something that wasn't as bad, IMO.

    You guys are probably right. Yanking him after that inning may be a tad extreme. Saying nothing to him and just believing he will be harsh enough on himself, or that he knows better and will punish himself would be the worst thing you could do. A "talk" would definately be the middle road here. If it were me, though, I'd make sure that "talk" was pretty one-sided and that he understood where I was coming from at the end of it.
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    Re: David Ross

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Leader View Post
    Maybe I'm being a little too thick headed about this because I was a former catcher (as is Narron), but that just can't be tolerated. i could almost guarantee you that if I would have made that same play at any level I played, I would have been yanked out of the game. In fact, I can remember being yanked out of a game in high school, as a freshman, for something that wasn't as bad, IMO.

    You guys are probably right. Yanking him after that inning may be a tad extreme. Saying nothing to him and just believing he will be harsh enough on himself, or that he knows better and will punish himself would be the worst thing you could do. A "talk" would definately be the middle road here. If it were me, though, I'd make sure that "talk" was pretty one-sided and that he understood where I was coming from at the end of it.
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    Re: David Ross

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    If I were the manager David Ross wouldn't have finished last night's game after that boneheaded play on the bunt pop up with the bases loaded.
    But you would have cried in your postgame news conference, right, Frank Robinson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    But you would have cried in your postgame news conference, right, Frank Robinson?

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    Probably. That's probably why I'm not a manager. Probably why I'd have a hard time coaching my kid's teams as well. Probably why, to this point I've stayed away from being their coach. I get too attached and am too competitive. I get too emotional when it comes to this stuff and react on emotion. Not necessarily great traits to have as a manager. I would have regretted making a decision like that based on emotion, just like Frank did.
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    Re: David Ross

    Quote Originally Posted by coachw513 View Post
    Wow...

    I fully advocate Narron privately meeting with Ross to "coach him up" and to ensure it doesn't happen again...but to publicly humiliate the man and yank him during the game...
    OK, yanking him out of the game right then and there might be a little over the top...

    But Lou Piniella had no problem stalking to the mound in the bottom of the 9th and giving Dempster what for in front of the entire civilized world. It wasn't to humiliate the man, but to make a point, both to the player, the other players on the team and the fans as well.

    That's one reason Lou is well loved here- he had no problem calling out players who deserved to be. Well, plus the Reds won the Series with him managing, too.

    Guys liked playing for Lou because they knew he was demanding; he wanted your best. You can treat a man with respect, and still be demanding of him, even publicly. Not everything needs to be done behind closed doors, with no one elses knowledge.

    I think Narron is a decent manager. If he were more expressive about certain situations, it would go over a lot better here. For instance, in the Ross pop-up bunt case, if he were even to say something like "that's not how we like to play the game" (I'm just imaging Jerry intoning those words...) that would probably get the point across to all, in the same way Piniella did by going out to the mound to give Dempster a quick little lecture last night.

    BTW- my favorite Piniella moment was the fight with Rob Dibble- two hot headed competitors, slightly out of control!

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    Re: David Ross

    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    and Dunn's going to hit 300 homers
    Is Dunn still going to hit 300 HR's? Because my half is holding up (sadly).

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    Re: David Ross

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post

    BTW- my favorite Piniella moment was the fight with Rob Dibble- two hot headed competitors, slightly out of control!

    Ditto.

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    Re: David Ross

    One thing I have to give to him is that Ross calls a much better game than JV. I think JV's offense does not even come close to Ross' ability to select pitches and determine what is necessary in certain situations.

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    Re: David Ross

    Although Ross hasnt been hitting well you also have to give him some credit for our pitcher's performance as a few others have already mentioned.


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