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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    Huggs may have quite a team following him to West Virginia....

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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye33 View Post
    From what is being said on some other message boards, Kansas State will not release the incoming recruiting class from their letters of intent. The incoming recruits will either have to tranfer and sit out a year or go play in Europe for a year and enter next years NBA draft (for a guy like Beasley).

    KSU claims that this has always been their policy in these situations, just no one cared before.
    .....and that is what will drag Kansas State to the continued depths of college basketball.

    I'm not a Bob Huggins supporter at all. I did when he was at Akron - and he left Akron when he was good. He did a good job with the juco kids at UC.

    But, there are jobs that you have a chance to work near home or be at your alma mater. I think that Kansas State doesn't have the foresight to think that Bob Huggins is always going to stay at Manhattan.

    Kansas State would be smart to let everyone else out of the scholarships and start over. They haven't had basketball since Mitch Richmond took them to the Elite Eight.
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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye33 View Post
    From what is being said on some other message boards, Kansas State will not release the incoming recruiting class from their letters of intent. The incoming recruits will either have to tranfer and sit out a year or go play in Europe for a year and enter next years NBA draft (for a guy like Beasley).

    KSU claims that this has always been their policy in these situations, just no one cared before.
    As a UC fan, that is a relief. The last thing I want my Cats facing is a Huggy Bear led WVU team loaded with 5-star talent twice next season.
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    I'm really anxious to see what he'll do with WV. Good school for Hugs to recruit from.
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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    Really dumb for KSU to do that... those players didn't sign to play for KSU they signed to play for Huggins (obviously; KSU isn't exactly a great school and Kansas isn't the greatest state in the world either)

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    I would imagine that the next K-state coach would have a say, too. If he sees conflict with the players in question, he could ask the school to give them their release.

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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    Frank Martin is now the head coach at K-State. He was Huggs assistant out there, and was an assistant to Andy Kennedy at UC as well.

    If K-State refuses to release Beasley or anyone else Martin is going to have a tough time attracting talent like that in the near future. You don't punish high school kids for something they had no control over (Huggins leaving).

    Personally, I think hiring Martin is a poor move. They are trying to save the recruiting class, which is fine, but Martin has never been a head coach on the D1 level in his life, much less in a power conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    (obviously; KSU isn't exactly a great school and Kansas isn't the greatest state in the world either)
    I used to think the same thing, wondering why recruits from Chicago and points east would ever want to come to Kansas. But after reading about Sherron Collins' life in Chi-Town, I can certainly see how a calm, suburban lifestyle would appeal to some of these inner-city kids.
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    K-State also retained Huggins' assistant Dalonte Hill as Associate Head Coach (I think that's the correct title). SI says that Hill was the reason Beasley chose KSU, and that Beasley calls him a "big brother".

    SI also said that the AD said he wouldn't release any players until after a new coach was hired, not that he wouldn't release any players at all. I thought I'd heard that today but wasn't sure.
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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    I used to think the same thing, wondering why recruits from Chicago and points east would ever want to come to Kansas. But after reading about Sherron Collins' life in Chi-Town, I can certainly see how a calm, suburban lifestyle would appeal to some of these inner-city kids.
    And its not like Lawrence is a horrible place to be. Lawrence is a very nice college town from what I could see when I was there for a conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdiersin View Post
    And its not like Lawrence is a horrible place to be. Lawrence is a very nice college town from what I could see when I was there for a conference.
    Lawrence is a great college town, and it's only 45 minutes away from KC.

    Manhattan is quite a bit more isolated, but I could see how it might appeal to kids who are used to living next door to crackhouses.
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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

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    Huggins begins new era for West Virginia fans

    By VICKI SMITH<, Associated Press Writer
    April 7, 2007

    MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) -- Very briefly, Bob Huggins showed his sensitive side.

    West Virginia's fiery new coach was decidedly soft-spoken at his first news conference Friday, admitting he got choked up walking into the arena in which he played 30 years ago.

    Next fall's season opener may even draw a few tears.

    "I'll have a hard time not crying," the West Virginia alum said. "I mean that sincerely. ... For me not to be emotional is probably not realistic. I'm probably going to have a towel -- you know, so I can hide, so you don't see how bad it is.

    "I don't want them to think I'm soft," he said. "'Cause I'm not soft."

    Huggins was hired just two days after John Beilein jumped to Michigan. That opened the door for Morgantown-native Huggins to come home to what he's long told people was his dream job.

    "I want to stay here as long as I can do what I'm supposed to do and as long as you people will have me," he said Friday.

    The 53-year-old Huggins played for the Mountaineers from 1975-77, then spent the first year of his coaching career here as a graduate assistant.

    He received a five-year contract from WVU that guarantees him $800,000 in the first year, the same salary he was drawing at Kansas State. Over that five-year period he will earn about $5 million, plus incentives, said Athletic Director Ed Pastilong.

    "It's a very good contract both ways," Pastilong said. "Financially it was lateral (for Huggins), and secondly, it was very similar to what we were operating with in this position in the past."

    Huggins said the negotiation was probably the shortest in history, joking that Pastilong refused to lend him reading glasses to study the fine print on his contract: "Eddie said, 'It'll be fine, sign here."'

    Though Huggins had turned down West Virginia once before in 2002, he couldn't refuse his alma mater again. He was the first choice to replace then-retiring Gale Catlett, but negotiations broke down in the final hours and he wound up staying at Cincinnati.

    "I wanted to be here since I was a little kid. Sometimes for whatever reasons it's not the right time," Huggins said of why he didn't take the job five years ago.

    "Thanks for letting me come home," he said.

    Although he's established himself as one of the premier college basketball coaches in the nation over the past quarter-century, Huggins has had his troubles away from the court.

    He spent 16 seasons at Cincinnati, leading the Bearcats to 14 consecutive NCAA tournaments and one Final Four. But critics targeted his program for low graduation rates, a series of player arrests and NCAA rules violations that ultimately led to probation and a reduction in scholarships.

    Huggins said it would take too long to explain why criticism over graduation rates was unfair, but he noted the NCAA does a better job now of calculating those rates.

    "I think people forget the fact that I graduated magna cum laude," he said. "If I didn't care about academics I wouldn't have had a 3.97."

    Huggins sat out the 2005-06 season after he was fired from Cincinnati, but he returned to the sidelines after Kansas State hired him in March 2006. He had five years left on his contract and must pay $100,000 for breaking it early.

    He led the Wildcats to a 23-12 record and an NIT berth, and signed what is considered to be the No. 1 recruiting class in the nation.

    He stands just 10 wins shy of 600 career victories.
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    Re: Huggy Bear to WVU

    I saw today that Beasley said that he hasn't asked to be released from K-state yet, but he may do so to go to Memphis or a couple of other schools. He was upset with Huggins for leaving, though, and WVU wasn't an option.

    After watching the USA/World game yesterday, I'd love to see Patterson come to WVU.


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