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    Pitching Depth II

    We had a thread in the offseason about pitching depth in the organization. Here is a thread showing where they seem to be now.

    Some notes:
    - Nick Moran and Brandon Camardese were released.
    - Andrew Good, Brock Till and Thomas Pauley are on the minor league DL.
    - Jared Burton, Eddie Guardado, Elizardo Ramirez, and Bill Bray are on the major league DL.
    - Per BA, Blake Hendley is on the restricted list (not sure what that means).
    - Ruben Medina and Adam Pointer are listed on Sarasota's roster but the status is blank and they don't seem to have appeared in any games yet.
    - Jake Robbins has disappeared from any rosters and I believe his earlier inclusion at Louisville was an error.
    - Other posters reported that Eric Shaler, Tzu Chu, Terrell Young, Josh Ravin and Robert Nickols are in extended spring.
    - The last column contains guys I haven't heard about but assume are in extended spring or at least still Red's property somewhere.

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    Spot #	Majors     	AAA        	AA         	A+      	A-	        Rehab/Others	Rehab/Others
    1	Aaron Harang	Homer Bailey	James Avery	Johnny Cueto	Sean Watson	Bill Bray	Daniel Donaldson
    2	Bronson Arroyo	Tom Shearn	Sam Lecure	Travis Wood	Jamie Arneson	Eliz. Ramirez	Phil Valiquette
    3	Kyle Lohse	Phil Dumatrait	Camilo Vazquez	Carlos Fisher	Rafael Gonzalez	Josh Ravin	Fr. Mateo
    4	Matt Belisle	Bob Livingston	Tyler Pelland	Richie Gardner	Daryl Thompson	Eric Schaler	Brandon Rice
    5	Eric Milton	Michael Gosling	Luke Lockwood	Ramon Ramirez	Jordan Smith	T. Pauly	Justin Newman
    
    
    Pen Spot
    1	David Weathers	Brad Salmon	Calvin Medlock	Josh Roenicke	Jose Rojas	E. Guardado	Dushan Ruzic
    2	Mike Stanton	Gary Majewski	Carlos Guevara	Robert Manuel	R. Geronimo	Robert Nickols	Matt Clark
    3	Todd Coffey	Wes Wilkerson	C. Bohorquez	Bo Lanier	Lee Tabor	Terrell Young	D. Guerrero
    4	Rheal Cormier	Jason Kershner	Mike Flannery	R. Asadoorian	Misael Dejesus	Brock Till	Nick Wandless
    5	Kirk  Saarloos	B. Shackelford	Justin Mallett	Logan Ondrusek	Ma.Mateo	Andrew Good	Wirfrin Obispo
    6	Jon Coutlangus	Ricky Stone	Mike Bumatay	A. Gressick	Travis Webb	Tzu Chu	        Jeremy Burchett
    7	Victor Santos	Steve Kelly	Derrik Lutz	Adam Pointer	Pedro Viola	Blake Hendley	David Wilson
    8				                        R. Medina		        Jared Burton	Daniel Rincon
    9							                                                Kevin Gunter
    10							                                                Jarred Leach
    Last edited by mth123; 04-14-2007 at 07:57 PM.
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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Medina went two tonight for Sarasota, giving up no runs, striking out three.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Apparently the guys are moving between "Billings" and the teams frequently. Luis Montano was added to Sarasota today and Adam Pointer sent to "Billings."

    Daniel Donaldson was already rotated on and off the Sarasota roster as well.
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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Apparently the guys are moving between "Billings" and the teams frequently. Luis Montano was added to Sarasota today and Adam Pointer sent to "Billings."

    Daniel Donaldson was already rotated on and off the Sarasota roster as well.
    Quick fix fill ins since all the 'Billings' guys are in Sarasota for extended spring training.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Other posters reported that Eric Shaler, Tzu Chu, Terrell Young, Josh Ravin and Robert Nickols are in extended spring.
    Can someone tell me what this means?

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Basically they are players who are just doing the practice and scrimmage thing until the GCL and Pioneer Leagues start up for Rookie Ball players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Basically they are players who are just doing the practice and scrimmage thing until the GCL and Pioneer Leagues start up for Rookie Ball players.
    Double D has it right. The guys are in a bit of a holding pattern until the Rookie Leagues begin. Talked with several of them today. With the monsoon that went through here today, their scheduled game was cancelled. We ran into several of them as they wandered about Lido Beach restaurants and shops. I did meet one of the Aussies. A 17 year old 6'8", guessing here, 220 pound "Kid". My son says he has a strong arm and is working on mechanics and control. Honestly, I would've thought this player to be 25-28 years old, no problem. His name is Ricky Rhodes if I heard it right. Keep your eye out for him, he could do something. Also heard that there has been alot of movement between the extended spring guys and Sarasota Reds, as their have been some nagging type of injuries.
    Last edited by fargo55; 04-16-2007 at 12:16 AM.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Basically they are players who are just doing the practice and scrimmage thing until the GCL and Pioneer Leagues start up for Rookie Ball players.
    Not necessarily. They may also be players recovering from injuries(even if mild) and missed time in spring training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aronchis View Post
    Not necessarily. They may also be players recovering from injuries(even if mild) and missed time in spring training.
    Ok, 95% of them are there for the reason I said.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Quote Originally Posted by Aronchis View Post
    Not necessarily. They may also be players recovering from injuries(even if mild) and missed time in spring training.
    So true. Ramirez started the game against the Twins today, Del Rosario followed in the third and fourth, and Keppinger played in todays game. The extended spring training games have the same feel to them as the College mid-week non-coference games. Well officiated and laid back. Ruzic the older of the big Aussies, went two solid innings and I'd guess is about done with spring training. Rice went a couple of good innings making a nice tag at home for an out on a wild pitch. Medina closed out the ninth, giving up one and preserving the 5-4 win.
    Last edited by fargo55; 04-16-2007 at 07:13 PM.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Updated for Memorial Day Week-end. I'm guessing we'll see some movement soon and may want to reference this. Added an * for lefties. May have missed a couple.

    Code:
    Spot #	Majors     	AAA        	AA         	A+      	A-	        Rehab/Others
    1	Aaron Harang	Homer Bailey	James Avery	Johnny Cueto	Sean Watson	Josh Ravin
    2	Bronson Arroyo	Bob Livingston*	Richie Gardner	Daryl Thompson	Rafael Gonzalez	Daniel Rincon
    3	Kyle Lohse	Tom Shearn	Camilo Vazquez*	Travis Wood*	Jordan Smith	Nick Wandless
    4	Matt Belisle	Phil Dumatrait*	Carlos Fisher	Ramon Ramirez	Travis Webb*	Eric Schaler
    5	Kirk Saarloos   Michael Gosling* Justin Mallett	Logan Ondrusek	Jamie Arneson*	Brandon Rice
    
    
    Pen Spot
    1	David Weathers	Marcus McBeth	Tyler Pelland*	Josh Roenicke	Jose Rojas	Jeremy Burchett
    2	Mike Stanton*	Todd Coffey	Calvin Medlock	Robert Manuel	R. Geronimo	Robert Nickols*
    3	Gary Majewski	Wes Wilkerson	Carlos Guevara	R. Medina	Lee Tabor*	Ricky Rhodes
    4	Brad Salmon	Jason Kershner*	C. Bohorquez	Derrik Lutz	Misael Dejesus	Fr. Mateo*
    5	Jon Coutlangus*	Mike Bumatay*	Mike Flannery	T. Pauly	Ma.Mateo	David Wilson
    6	Victor Santos	Ricky Stone	Brock Till	Dushan Ruzic	A. Gressick	Tzu Chiu*
    7	Jared Burton	Steve Kelly	Luke Lockwood*	Kevin Gunter	Pedro Viola*	Blake Hendley
    8			                R. Asadoorian	Luis Montano	D. Guerrero	Adam Pointer
    9						                                        Daniel Donaldson*
    10
    
    DL
    1	Bill Bray*	B. Shackelford*	Sam Lecure			                Phil Valiquette*
    2	Eliz. Ramirez					                                Wirfrin Obispo
    3	Eric Milton*					                                Bo Lanier
    4	E. Guardado*					                                Terrell Young
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Updated for the recent movement. Looks like Mike Bumatay, Wes Wikerson and Luke Lockwood are gone and Bo Lanier has been put on the restricted list. Some names I can not find from last year include Jeremy Burchett who had an ERA of 2.25 in 40 combined IP for the GCL Reds and Billings last year at age 22. Not sure on specific roles in all cases, but the names are on the right teams and I'm sure it will change as trading season moves on and more guys sign.

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    Spot #	Majors     	AAA        	AA         	A+      	A-             	Billings	GCL
    1	Aaron Harang	Bob Livingston*	James Avery	Sean Watson	Rafael Gonzalez	E. Del Rosario	Jamie Arneson*
    2	Bronson Arroyo	Tom Shearn	Johnny Cueto	Travis Wood*	Travis Webb*	Josh Ravin	Tzu Chiu*
    3	Kyle Lohse	Phil Dumatrait*	Camilo Vazquez*	Logan Ondrusek	D. Guerrero	Dan Donaldson*	Brandon Rice
    4	Matt Belisle	Eliz. Ramirez	Carlos Fisher	B. Jukich*	Jordan Smith	Andrew Bowman*	Robert Nickols*
    5	Homer Bailey	Richie Gardner	Sam Lecure	Daryl Thompson	A. Gressick	Har Honeycutt	Ricky Rhodes
    						                                        Anthony Romero	Efrain Rodriguez
    
    Pen Spot
    1	David Weathers	Gary Majewski	Tyler Pelland*	Jose Rojas	R. Geronimo	P Valiquette*	Tom Fiebig
    2	Mike Gosling*	Jason Kershner*	Josh Roenicke	R. Medina	Lee Tabor*	Scott Gafney	Aguido Gonzalez*
    3	Brad Salmon	B. Shackelford*	Carlos Guevara	Robert Manuel	Misael Dejesus	Ray Jeffords	Jordan Hotchkiss
    4	Marcus McBeth	Ricky Stone	Justin Mallett	Derrik Lutz	Ma.Mateo	Matthew Klinker	Jose Medina
    5	Jon Coutlangus*	Kirk  Saarloos	Brock Till	Dushan Ruzic	Pedro Viola*	Joseph Krebs*	Victor Navarro
    6	Victor Santos	Calvin Medlock	R. Asadoorian	C. Bohorquez	Terrell Young	Luis Montano	Steve Otterness*
    7	Todd Coffey	J. Manon	Ramon Ramirez	Jeremy Horst*	Kevin Gunter	Adam Pointer	Curtis Partch
    8						                                        Tyler Rhoden	Miguel Perez
    9						                                        Dan Zeffro	Charles Snowden*
    10						                                        Nick Wandless	Jeremy Vinyard
    							                                                Juan Rafael
    							                                                Jose Marizan
    
    DL
    1	Jared Burton	Steve Kelly		         T. Pauly			                Leonardo Astorga
    2	Eric Milton*			                 Bo Lanier			                James Morris*
    3	E. Guardado*
    4	Bill Bray*
    5	Mike Stanton*
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    So he is the 2nd Aussie we have over here now? It will be interesting to see how this turns out in the future bringing in guys from over there/down there.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    I heard that in Australia, they count the years backwards, which explains the 6'8", 17-year-old.

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    Re: Pitching Depth II

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    I heard that in Australia, they count the years backwards, which explains the 6'8", 17-year-old.
    Does that also mean that if he is 6'8' down under that he is 8'6" up here? Also, does his sinker rise?=)


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