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    Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    I was at both the Saturday and Sunday Games at Wrigley. On Saturday I drank way to much, so I don't really have much to add. BUT I was then not in the mood to drink for Sundays game and paid better attention. Here are my questions from the weekend:

    1. Saturday Game - Was the game thread flipping out when they IBB Ward to get to Soriano? I can only imagine.
    2. Sundays Game - from my seats it looked like the Ump had a pretty pitcher generous strike zone, was that the case? I haven't seen that many looking Ks in a long time.
    3. Both games the wind was blowing in pretty good, on Saturday only Dunn would've been able to take one for a ride. I would say that there were a handful of pop ups that would've gone out if the wind was blowing out, or not blowing in so hard.
    4. Lohse - 114 pitches seemed like a lot in mid april.
    5. Hamilton - he didn't look comfortable at the plate.
    6. Ross - He looked abysmal at the plate.
    7. Wuertz completely owned the Reds.

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMilner View Post
    I was at both the Saturday and Sunday Games at Wrigley. On Saturday I drank way to much, so I don't really have much to add. BUT I was then not in the mood to drink for Sundays game and paid better attention. Here are my questions from the weekend:

    1. Saturday Game - Was the game thread flipping out when they IBB Ward to get to Soriano? I can only imagine.
    2. Sundays Game - from my seats it looked like the Ump had a pretty pitcher generous strike zone, was that the case? I haven't seen that many looking Ks in a long time.
    3. Both games the wind was blowing in pretty good, on Saturday only Dunn would've been able to take one for a ride. I would say that there were a handful of pop ups that would've gone out if the wind was blowing out, or not blowing in so hard.
    4. Lohse - 114 pitches seemed like a lot in mid april.
    5. Hamilton - he didn't look comfortable at the plate.
    6. Ross - He looked abysmal at the plate.
    7. Wuertz completely owned the Reds.
    This is his emerging trend for 2007.

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    A few thoughts.

    I didn't get a chance to hear much of Saturday's game and I missed Sunday's entirely. In the newspaper on Sunday, but Arroyo talked about how he has owned Soriano (to the tune of .127 BA, I think the paper said), so he believed that was a good match up. Of course, baseball is a game where anything can happen).

    In today's paper, they talked about how much Lohse and Ross were in sync. It was noted that such a thing is a big plus, Ross's batting woes notwithstanding. I think it's too early to toss him or some of the other guys struggling overboard. Time may well ultimately prove some RZ posters correct that 2006 was David Ross's "career year", but it's early in the season.

    You mentioned Hamilton not looking comfortable. I have to wonder how many folks are looking comfortable overall. This weather has been brutal in the northern games. I'm anxious to see how we do once things warm up (they are forecasting some warming trend this season, right?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    This is his emerging trend for 2007.
    He looks as bad as anyone I've ever seen with the bat right now--totally, completely lost.

    2 weeks is too small a sample size to make any pronouncements as to his season-long numbers, but you have to wonder how long Narron will continue to play him with numbers like that.
    We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    Ross is clearly opening up that front shoulder too early. You know it's drastic when you can see it on TV. A lot of guys have struggled with that over the years. It takes a lot of work in the cage, but you can fix it.

    Encarnacion is struggling almost as badly. His bat looks really slow. He's late on everything. Not sure what his problem is.

    Hamilton looks overmatched most of the time. He's not ready to be a regular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osuceltic View Post
    Ross is clearly opening up that front shoulder too early. You know it's drastic when you can see it on TV. A lot of guys have struggled with that over the years. It takes a lot of work in the cage, but you can fix it.

    Encarnacion is struggling almost as badly. His bat looks really slow. He's late on everything. Not sure what his problem is.

    Hamilton looks overmatched most of the time. He's not ready to be a regular.

    I disagree on Hamilton...he has shown to have a really good eye at the plate, especially down in the count...was it his best series ever...no, but overmatched is not the word I would use.

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    Well, the hitting, especially RH hitting is a problem no question. But hopefully, these 3 guys are just slumping at the same time and will break out.

    After the weekend games, the bad news is that the Reds are dead last in hitting (.226) and 11th out of 16 in runs scored.

    The good news is that the Reds rank 2nd in ERA (2.93) and 6th in fielding percentage. Belisle and Lohse, who were counted on heavily to fill in SP spots, have generally outpitched the staff aces, Arroyo and Harang, to this point in the very short season. I would nto expect this to continue, but I sure do like what I see so far.

    The new look Reds can hit like total crap and yet still win games. Go figure!?!

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMilner View Post
    2. Sundays Game - from my seats it looked like the Ump had a pretty pitcher generous strike zone, was that the case?
    It was big, but it was consistent. (At least until Weathers got into the game. Then it shrank.)
    4. Lohse - 114 pitches seemed like a lot in mid april.
    That's why Narron said he went to the bullpen, despite the four-hit shutout.
    5. Hamilton - he didn't look comfortable at the plate.
    6. Ross - He looked abysmal at the plate.
    Agreed.
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland View Post
    It was big, but it was consistent. (At least until Weathers got into the game. Then it shrank.)

    That's why Narron said he went to the bullpen, despite the four-hit shutout.

    Agreed.
    I thought the ump called Weathers just fine compared to Loshe...one pitch was borderline but the others by Stormy weren't close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by registerthis View Post
    He looks as bad as anyone I've ever seen with the bat right now--totally, completely lost.

    2 weeks is too small a sample size to make any pronouncements as to his season-long numbers, but you have to wonder how long Narron will continue to play him with numbers like that.
    Not that I'm a Tim McCarver fan, but with him as a former catcher, it caught my ear something he said during Saturday's Angels-Red Sox broadcast...in discussing Jason Varitek's slow start, he said he wondered how ANY catcher gets off to a good start to the season...he said in spring training #1 catchers are TOTALLY involved in catching all the guys on the staff and working with them and often BP is the last thing they get to deal with during a day...

    It's interesting to note that last spring Ross wasn't having those major responsibilities and Larue was...

    Would be interesting to see the avg ML catcher splits from April compared to end of season numbers (oh I can see some of you now )

    Hopefully he'll break out of it...


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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    The biggest problem with Ross/Freel and others who are struggling mightily at the plate is their pitch selection. Ross had a 3-1 count in his last AB and swung at ball four. Then on the full count, he looked at a pitch down broadway. It's just a mental thing at this point.

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    Until Hamilton can prove he can hit major league lefty breaking stuff, he'll look like he did yesterday. He still works the count really well, and it just seems like he'll rip a pitch any time. You can almost see him thinking each AB and each pitch, putting it away in his mind and saying, "Okay, you got me on that one, but not next time."

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    Re: Questions/Observations from the Weekend

    Quote Originally Posted by DTCromer View Post
    The biggest problem with Ross/Freel and others who are struggling mightily at the plate is their pitch selection. Ross had a 3-1 count in his last AB and swung at ball four. Then on the full count, he looked at a pitch down broadway. It's just a mental thing at this point.
    Freel has never been a paitent hitter. When he is going good he is a good leadoff but when he is going bad he is normally a quick out. As for Hamilton and his hitting I heard that he steps up to every at bat thinking he has a 0-2 count. Give him time and atbats and he will be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osuceltic View Post
    Ross is clearly opening up that front shoulder too early. You know it's drastic when you can see it on TV. A lot of guys have struggled with that over the years. It takes a lot of work in the cage, but you can fix it.

    Encarnacion is struggling almost as badly. His bat looks really slow. He's late on everything. Not sure what his problem is.

    Hamilton looks overmatched most of the time. He's not ready to be a regular.

    I keep hearing things like this about quite a few Reds players.

    Don't we have a hitting coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig Reds Fan View Post
    Don't we have a hitting coach?
    Adam Dunn does. I'm not sure about the other guys.
    Makes all the routine posts.


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