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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Dayton won 3-2.

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Sarasota won 7-2.

    Jay Bruce went 2-for-4 with two singles, a walk, and 2 RBI.
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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    There are many more people I'd rather have in AAA right now than the Majors.

    Keppinger-->Castro
    Bailey-->Belisle (sorry, not a fan, maybe in pen)
    Dumatrait/Livingston-->Milton
    Salmon-->Cormier
    Burton-->Coffey (he needs some time in AAA right now)
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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    There are many more people I'd rather have in AAA right now than the Majors.

    Keppinger-->Castro
    Bailey-->Belisle (sorry, not a fan, maybe in pen)
    Dumatrait/Livingston-->Milton
    Salmon-->Cormier
    Burton-->Coffey (he needs some time in AAA right now)
    Belisle start was exactly the demonstration why(actually all of his starts outside his 3rd) why should be in the rotation up untill he can no longer be effective over a period of time, the key is consistancy. Dumatrait should be started in the bullpen first before even thinking about starting. He has been killer on lefties but less effective against righties.

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    And so far this year righties are hitting .164 against Dumatrait. Lefties just .100 against him.

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Sarasota won 7-2.

    Jay Bruce went 2-for-4 with two singles, a walk, and 2 RBI.
    That league is usually hard on young hitters -- Bruce shouldn't be having as easy a time as he has been with it. I'm eager to see if he can keep his production high (OBP of over. 380) on a couple of cycles through the league. We all know he's a special player, but his performance here should give a pretty good picture of what his timetable will be.
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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    I went through the data from 2002-2006 for every player in the FSL under age 21 (ranges from 18-20, but mostly 20 year olds) and the average line for a guy under 21 in the FSL is .260/.321/.380 for an OPS of .701. If you go with straight 20 year olds, the line goes to .259/.322/.378 for an even .700 OPS. 20 year old outfielders have a slightly better average line of .267/.330/.404 for an OPS of .734.

    In the same time span just 3 players have had a slugging percentage of .500 or better, and only 1 player has OPS'd over .900. Jay Bruce and Cameron Maybin are both making this league look a lot easier than they should be.

    Oh, I only included guys under 21 with at least 100 at bats, so anyone with under 100 at bats was not included, so no guys who just got a 1 or 2 game call up from the GCL or anything.

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Thanks again for these guys. I don't usually have much to add, but I really enjoy reading the updates on a daily basis. I've been out with a back injury, so these are a welcome read in my pretty sad world right now, lol.


    That said, is it normal for an entire farm system to have pitching this good for the entire first month of the season. It seems to me that damn near every single night, the Reds, from A up thru AAA are having stellar nights. Really incredible.

    But what's up with Dumatrait's 1K tonight?

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Box Scores courtesy FirstInning.Com

    http://firstinning.com/daily/cin/

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Good to see Cueto have a strong start.
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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    There are many more people I'd rather have in AAA right now than the Majors.

    Keppinger-->Castro
    Bailey-->Belisle (sorry, not a fan, maybe in pen)
    Dumatrait/Livingston-->Milton
    Salmon-->Cormier
    Burton-->Coffey (he needs some time in AAA right now)

    I only agree with you on the Milton replacement. A couple I could live with, but in no way do I want Burton in there over Coffey.
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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I went through the data from 2002-2006 for every player in the FSL under age 21 (ranges from 18-20, but mostly 20 year olds) and the average line for a guy under 21 in the FSL is .260/.321/.380 for an OPS of .701. If you go with straight 20 year olds, the line goes to .259/.322/.378 for an even .700 OPS. 20 year old outfielders have a slightly better average line of .267/.330/.404 for an OPS of .734.

    In the same time span just 3 players have had a slugging percentage of .500 or better, and only 1 player has OPS'd over .900. Jay Bruce and Cameron Maybin are both making this league look a lot easier than they should be.

    Oh, I only included guys under 21 with at least 100 at bats, so anyone with under 100 at bats was not included, so no guys who just got a 1 or 2 game call up from the GCL or anything.
    Would you happen to have a list of who the top young hitters in the FSL have been over that span? It would be nice to see what Bruce's comparables are.
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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Would you happen to have a list of who the top young hitters in the FSL have been over that span? It would be nice to see what Bruce's comparables are.
    Straight from my spreadsheet, the top 20 guys listed by OPS

    Code:
    Name	    Year	Age	Pos	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Miguel Cabrera	2002	19	3b	489	134	43	1	9	75	38	85	0.274	0.333	0.421	754
    Colby Rasmus	2006	20	 	193	49	4	5	5	35	27	35	0.254	0.351	0.404	755
    Willy Aybar	2003	20	3b	445	122	29	3	11	74	41	70	0.274	0.336	0.427	763
    Justin Huber	2002	20	c	100	27	2	1	3	15	11	18	0.27	0.37	0.4	770
    Melky Cabrera	2004	20	of	333	96	20	3	8	51	23	59	0.288	0.341	0.438	779
    Alex Romero	2004	20	of-dh	380	111	21	2	6	42	54	47	0.292	0.387	0.405	792
    Greg Golson	2006	20	of	159	42	11	2	6	17	11	53	0.264	0.324	0.472	796
    Last. Milledge	2005	20	of	232	70	15	0	4	22	19	41	0.302	0.385	0.418	803
    Joe Mauer	2003	20	c	233	78	13	1	1	44	24	24	0.335	0.395	0.412	807
    Etanislao Abreu	2005	20	2b	394	129	23	7	4	43	15	56	0.327	0.356	0.452	808
    Will Smith	2002	20	of	549	164	30	12	14	73	31	75	0.299	0.336	0.474	810
    Jeremy Hermida	2004	20	of-dh	340	101	17	1	10	50	42	73	0.297	0.377	0.441	818
    David Wright	2003	20	3b	466	126	39	2	15	75	72	98	0.27	0.369	0.459	828
    Eric Duncan	2004	19	3b	173	44	20	2	4	26	31	47	0.254	0.366	0.462	828
    Mike Carp	2006	20	1b	491	141	27	1	17	88	51	107	0.287	0.379	0.45	829
    Matt Moses	2005	20	3b-dh	265	81	16	1	7	42	28	59	0.306	0.376	0.453	829
    Dioner Navarro	2003	19	c	197	59	16	4	3	28	17	27	0.299	0.364	0.467	831
    Fra. Gutierrez	2003	20	of	425	120	28	5	20	68	39	111	0.282	0.345	0.513	858
    Joel Guzman	2004	19	ss	329	101	22	8	14	51	21	78	0.307	0.349	0.55	899
    Matt Kemp	2005	20	of	418	128	21	4	27	90	25	92	0.306	0.349	0.569	918
    Also note that James Loney came through the league at 19 and psoted a .737 OPS, Robinson Cano at 20 posted a .690 OPS, Hanley Ramirez at 20 posted a .753 OPS and Grady sizemore posted a .699 OPS at age 20. The league has been pretty brutal on a lot of good hitters.
    Last edited by dougdirt; 04-24-2007 at 11:23 PM.

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    Re: Monday 4-23 minor league updates

    Chattanooga bats are hot as well as their defense. Lecure struggled walking 4 while striking out 4 and allowing 7 hits.


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