4-24-07 Reds v Cardinals

[UGADaddy]

3rd would be his ideal spot....he is their best hitter.

No question. They need to get some guys on base for this dude. He's far and away the best hitter on the team right now. I also like having Freel in front of him to get on base and steal his way into scoring position, but I understand that everyone needs a day off every once in a while.

[Eric_Davis]

Beautiful. Our #1 RBI guy (Hamilton) is hitting behind the two least likely people to get on base in all of baseball.

Hopefully, he gets 5 plate appearances and it doesn't matter.

[Heath]

I completely agree. It's not his back. It's his innate ability to strikeout more than any other human on earth.

Don't let stats get in the way of a Good Story...

Career Leaders for Strikeouts.
+ - Indicates Hall of Famer. Bold indicates active player
* - bats left-handed, # - switch hits, ? - unknown, else - bats right-handed

Rank	Player (age)	Strikeouts	Bats
1.	Reggie Jackson+* 	2597	L
2.	Sammy Sosa (38)	2209	R
3.	Andres Galarraga 	2003	R
4.	Jose Canseco 	            1942	R
5.	Willie Stargell+* 	1936	L
6.	Jim Thome* (36)	1924	L
7.	Mike Schmidt+ 	1883	R
8.	Fred McGriff* 	1882	L
9.	Tony Perez+ 	            1867	R
10.	Dave Kingman 	1816	R
11.	Bobby Bonds 	             1757	R
12.	Dale Murphy 	             1748	R
13.	Lou Brock+*      	1730	L
14.	Mickey Mantle+# 	1710	B
15.	Harmon Killebrew+ 	1699	R
16.	Chili Davis# 	            1698	B
17.	Dwight Evans   	1697	R
18.	Rickey Henderson 	1694	R
19.	Dave Winfield+ 	1686	R
20.	Craig Biggio (41)	1657	R
21.	Reggie Sanders (39)	1605	R
22.	Gary Gaetti       	1602	R
23.	Mark McGwire 	1596	R
24.	Lee May 	             1570	R
25.	Jeff Bagwell (39)	1558	R
26.	Dick Allen 	1556	R
27.	Ray Lankford* 	1550	L
Willie McCovey+* 	             1550	L
29.	Dave Parker*    	1537	L
30.	Frank Robinson+ 	1532	R
31.	Lance Parrish 	 	1527	R
32.	Willie Mays+ 		1526	R
Devon White# 		1526	B
34.	Jim Edmonds* (37)	1525	L
35.	Eddie Murray+# 	1516	B
36.	Rick Monday* 	1513	L
Greg Vaughn 	1513	R
38.	Andre Dawson 	1509	R
39.	Carlos Delgado* (35)	1500	L
40.	Tony Phillips# 	1499	B
41.	Ken Griffey* (37)	1498	L
42.	Greg Luzinski 		1495	R
43.	Barry Bonds* (42)	1492	L
44.	Eddie Mathews+* 	1487	L
45.	Manny Ramirez (35)	1462	R
46.	Frank Howard 	1460	R
47.	Jay Bell 		1443	R
48.	Juan Samuel 		1442	R
49.	Harold Baines* 	1441	L
Jack Clark 	1441	R
51.	Mo Vaughn* 		1429	L
52.	Jimmy Wynn 		1427	R
53.	Jim Rice 		1423	R
Alex Rodriguez (31)		1423	R
55.	George Foster 		1419	R
Jeff Kent (39)	1419	R
57.	George Scott 		1418	R
58.	Ron Gant 		1411	R
59.	Darrell Evans* 	1410	L
60.	Rob Deer 		1409	R
61.	Jay Buhner 		1406	R
62.	Eric Davis 		1398	R
63.	Carl Yastrzemski+* 	1393	L
64.	Jose Hernandez (37)	1391	R
65.	Joe Carter 		1387	R
66.	Carlton Fisk+ 		1386	R
67.	Hank Aaron+ 		1383	R
68.	Jeromy Burnitz* (38)	1376	L
Royce Clayton (37)	1376	R
70.	Travis Fryman 	1369	R
71.	Matt Williams 	1363	R
72.	Danny Tartabull 	1362	R
73.	Mike Cameron (34)	1361	R
74.	Tim Salmon (38)	1360	R
75.	Larry Parrish 		1359	R
76.	Darryl Strawberry* 	1352	L
77.	Robin Yount+ 	1350	R
78.	Rafael Palmeiro* (42)	1348	L
79.	Ron Santo 		1343	R
80.	Ellis Burks 		1340	R
81.	Gorman Thomas 	1339	R
82.	Dean Palmer 		1332	R
83.	Babe Ruth+* 		1330	L
84.	Julio Franco (48)	1318	R
Deron Johnson 	1318	R
86.	Cecil Fielder 		1316	R
87.	Willie Horton 		1313	R
88.	Jimmie Foxx+ 	1311	R
89.	Mickey Tettleton# 	1307	B
Tim Wallach 	1307	R
91.	Cal Ripken+ 		1305	R
92.	Steve Finley* (42)	1297	L
93.	Bret Boone (38)	1295	R
94.	Kirk Gibson* 		1285	L
95.	Todd Zeile 		1279	R
96.	Johnny Bench+ 	1278	R
Bobby Grich 	1278	R
98.	Pete Incaviglia 	1277	R
Jose Valentin# (37)	1277	B
100.	Andruw Jones (30)	1275	R
101.	Juan Gonzalez (37)	1273	R
102.	Benito Santiago (42)	1270	R
103.	Claudell Washington* 1266	L
104.	Shawn Green* (34)	1261	L
105.	Ryne Sandberg+ 	1260	R
Frank Thomas (39)	1260	R
107.	Ken Singleton# 	1246	B
108.	Paul Molitor+ 		1244	R
109.	Marquis Grissom 	1240	R
110.	Ruben Sierra# (41)	1239	B
111.	Willie McGee# 	1238	B
112.	Duke Snider+* 	1237	L
113.	Ernie Banks+ 		1236	R
114.	Ron Cey 		1235	R
115.	Jesse Barfield 		1234	R
116.	Larry Walker* 	1231	L
117.	Roberto Clemente+ 	1230	R
118.	Boog Powell* 		1226	L
119.	Bernie Williams# (38)	1212	B
120.	Graig Nettles* 	1209	L
121.	Bobby Bonilla# 	1204	B
122.	Edgar Martinez 	1202	R
123.	Tony Armas 		1201	R
124.	Derek Jeter (33)	1199	R
125.	Bobby Abreu* (33)	1197	L
126.	Vada Pinson* 		1196	L
127.	Brady Anderson* 	1190	L
Will Clark* 	1190	L
129.	Tom Brunansky 	1187	R
130.	Dave Concepcion 	1186	R
131.	Robin Ventura* 	1179	L
132.	Orlando Cepeda+ 	1169	R
133.	Eric Karros 		1167	R
134.	Paul O'Neill* 		1166	L
135.	Alex Gonzalez (34)	1165	R
136.	Ken Caminiti# 	1163	B
137.	Jason Giambi* (36)	1145	L
138.	Willie Wilson# 	1144	B
139.	Pete Rose# 		1143	B
140.	Bert Campaneris 	1142	R
Richie Sexson (32)		1142	R
J.T. Snow* (39)	1142	L
143.	Roberto Alomar# 	1140	B
Donn Clendenon 	1140	R
145.	Jeff Conine (41)	1137	R
Gil Hodges 	1137	R
147.	Jeff Burroughs 	1135	R
Leo Cardenas 	1135	R
Lloyd Moseby* 	1135	L
Ivan Rodriguez (35)	1135	R
151.	Raul Mondesi (36)	1130	R
152.	Brian Downing 	1127	R
153.	Bob Bailey 		1126	R
154.	Gary Matthews 	1125	R
155.	Luis Gonzalez* (39)	1124	L
156.	Greg Gagne 		1121	R
157.	Fred Lynn* 		1116	L
158.	Dave Henderson 	1105	R
159.	Lou Whitaker* 	1099	L
160.	Jim Fregosi 		1097	R
161.	Joe Torre 		1094	R
162.	Garry Templeton# 	1092	B
163.	Norm Cash* 		1091	L
164.	Tony Taylor 		1083	R
165.	Preston Wilson (32)	1082	R
166.	Jose Cruz# (33)	1081	B
167.	Tommy Harper 	1080	R
168.	Dante Bichette 	1078	R
169.	Tony Clark# (35)	1073	B
170.	Don Baylor 		1069	R
Vinny Castilla (39)	1069	R
Tino Martinez* 	1069	L
173.	Troy Glaus (30)	1067	R
174.	Mike Piazza (38)	1065	R
175.	Johnny Callison* 	1064	L
176.	Andy Van Slyke* 	1063	L
177.	Delino DeShields* 	1061	L
Ray Durham# (35)	1061	B
179.	Joe Adcock 		1059	R
180.	Doug Rader 		1055	R
181.	Howard Johnson# 	1053	B
Derrek Lee (31)	1053	R
183.	Scott Rolen (32)	1051	R
184.	Jorge Posada# (35)	1049	B
185.	Billy Williams+* 	1046	L
186.	Frank White 		1035	R
187.	Bob Allison 		1033	R
188.	Pat Burrell (30)	1031	R
Jose Cruz* 	1031	L
190.	Reggie Smith# 	1030	B
191.	Rod Carew+* 		1028	L
192.	Darrell Porter* 	1025	L
193.	Chet Lemon 		1024	R
194.	Carl Everett# (36)	1021	B
195.	Al Kaline+ 		1020	R
196.	Phil Nevin (36)	1019	R
197.	Ken Boyer 		1017	R
Chipper Jones# (35)	1017	B
199.	Ryan Klesko* (36)	1016	L
John Olerud* (38)	1016	L
201.	Joe Morgan+* 	1015	L
202.	Geoff Jenkins* (32)	1014	L
203.	George Hendrick 	1013	R
204.	Keith Hernandez* 	1012	L
205.	Larry Doby+* 	1011	L
206.	Amos Otis 		1008	R
207.	Jermaine Dye (33)	1007	R
208.	Hubie Brooks 		1005	R
209.	Steve Garvey 		1003	R
210.	Shawon Dunston 	1000	R
Jeffrey Leonard 		1000	R
212.	David Justice* 	999	L
213.	Gene Tenace 		998	R
214.	Garret Anderson* (35)997	L
Gary Carter+ 	997	R
Charles Johnson (35)	997	R
217.	Cory Snyder 	992	R
218.	Brooks Robinson+ 	990	R
219.	Todd Hundley# 	988	B
Chris Speier 	988	R
221.	Robby Thompson 	987	R
222.	Gary Sheffield (38)	986	R
223.	Mark McLemore# 	983	B
224.	Terry Pendleton# 	979	B
225.	Willie Davis* 		977	L
226.	Dick McAuliffe* 	974	L
227.	Kenny Lofton* (40)	972	L
228.	Javy Lopez (36)	969	R
229.	Tim Raines# 		966	B
230.	Kirby Puckett+ 	965	R
231.	Jim Sundberg 		963	R
232.	Albert Belle 		961	R
Dolph Camilli* 	961	L
234.	Vince Coleman# 	960	B
Michael Tucker* (36)	960	L
236.	Cliff Floyd* (34)	959	L
237.	Gary Pettis# 		958	B
238.	Dick Stuart 		957	R
239.	Derek Bell 		955	R
240.	Adam Dunn* (27)	954	L

[M2]

The higher Hatteberg hits in the order the less pitches he sees.

Exactly.

[Heath]

Well, we're off to a nice start.

[Matt700wlw]

Things are looking up a bit......

[Heath]

You know, after I posted the K stats I realized how surprised I was to see #195, 197, 209, & 218 on that list. I expected them to be higher.

[redssouth]

Heath, I get your point, and somewhat agree with you, but the stats you show are meaningless. Those are career totals. Not exactly a glowing endorsement of your point of view.

[remdog]

I don't understand how some contend Dunn's back is the reason for his recent offensive woes when it doesn't seem evident in the field. He has made some solid defensive plays, even a diving catch, in the last week.

Are you referring to the catch he made on Sunday? I had a big laugh out of that. When the ball was hit I chalked it up as an out. Then I see Dunn sprawled out to catch it (did he dive or fall down : ). An average fielder has that standing up, a good fielder has it in a trot.

Rem

[M2]

Don't let stats get in the way of a Good Story...

Ks = RBIs

If you ain't swinging hard, you ain't trying.

[Red in Chicago]

Heath, I get your point, and somewhat agree with you, but the stats you show are meaningless. Those are career totals. Not exactly a glowing endorsement of your point of view.

exactly, dunn's only been around a handful of years...bring that list up again in another 6 or 7 years:

[Matt700wlw]

We are playing ball here shortly!!

[DeadRedinCT]

Somebody needs to tell Marty to take a breath.

[redsrule2500]

Why is there no TV? It's listed on the schedule

[registerthis]

exactly, dunn's only been around a handful of years...bring that list up again in another 6 or 7 years:

Jackson, Sosa, Stargell, Schmidt, McGriff...

Yeah, don't want Dunn up there with any of those guys.

Seriously, this Dunn/Ks talk is older than the mystery tupperware container in the back of my fridge.