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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by 44Magnum View Post
    Adam Dunn is the Reds career leader in HR's per at bat ratio with 14.4.
    Not really surprising, but it still doesn't make him a good hitter :


    Also, how many of those came with nobody on, and in a blowout :

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post

    The more I think about it, the more I think guys like Marty don't like Ks because it looks embarrassing rather than any kind of time spend determining whether Ks are worse than any other kind of out.
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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Absolutely. It's all about K's and Batting Average for lots of fans.
    I suspect you are right, but I just find it flabbergasting to think people would prefer better paint on the walls to a more solidly produced structure.

    I mean accounting for over 200 runs a year is special.

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Not really surprising, but it still doesn't make him a good hitter :


    Also, how many of those came with nobody on, and in a blowout :

    Marty really has you brainwashed doesn't he? :

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Marty really has you brainwashed doesn't he? :

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Marty really has you brainwashed doesn't he? :
    He's the guy you see with the shaved head, wearing a set of furry gray headphones to simulate the look of the poofy-haired one. :
    Burn down the disco. Hang the blessed DJ. Because the music that he constantly plays, it says nothing to me about my life.

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    The thing that frustrates me the most about Adam is when he takes a called 3rd strike with RISP. I don't have numbers on it, but it happens enough that I notice it, and a poster mentioned it yesterday also, IIRC.
    I don't have numbers on it, either, but here are some three-year splits for Dunn with RISP and overall.

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    With RISP:	Overall:
    AB: 407		1,672
    RBI: 177	295
    BB: 139		334
    K: 134		557
    AVG: .236	.249
    OBP: .434	.380
    SLG: .538	.533
    OPS: .972	.913
    Okay, what do we see?

    First of all, when there are RISP, Adam gets an RBI every 2.3 AB (177/407). Overall, it takes him 5.7 AB to get an RBI (295/1,672). That means that the people who say he only drives in himself are dead wrong.

    Secondly, we see that with RISP, Dunn gets a walk every 2.9 AB (139/407). Overall it takes him 5.0 AB to work a walk (334/1,672). That means Adam is getting pitched around whenever there are RISP, which should surprise no one. It also shows that Adam has the discipline to take a base when one is offered.

    Thirdly, and this is very interesting, when there are RISP, Adam strikes out once every 3.0 AB (134/407). Overall, Adam strikes out once every (wait for it) 3.0 AB (557/1,672). Look at that again. There’s no change at all in the rate. He’s not choking. He’s not flailing. And the results speak for themselves in the final four lines above. Or at least they should. With RISP, he adds 54 points to his OBP and 59 points to his OPS.
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    He's the guy you see with the shaved head, wearing a set of furry gray headphones to simulate the look of the poofy-haired one. :
    That's my evil twin.

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland View Post

    Thirdly, and this is very interesting, when there are RISP, Adam strikes out once every 3.0 AB (134/407). Overall, Adam strikes out once every (wait for it) 3.0 AB (557/1,672). Look at that again. There’s no change at all in the rate. He’s not choking. He’s not flailing. And the results speak for themselves in the final four lines above. Or at least they should. With RISP, he adds 54 points to his OBP and 59 points to his OPS.
    good work, Redsland.

    I knew from another post I had read the other day that Dunn actually does better with RISP (it might've been woy, he's always proving Dunn bashers wrong) than not. Just as you have shown, again.

    Adam Dunn is a better hitter with RISP than he is when they're not in scoring position. It's true.

    I was referring specifically to called third strikes, as opposed to a swinging third strike. I don't know if there is any way to show that? None that I know of.

    And it's just as likely that I'm wrong about that, as is the case with most of the other Adam Dunn myths that float around here.

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsland View Post
    I don't have numbers on it, either, but here are some three-year splits for Dunn with RISP and overall.

    Code:
    With RISP:	Overall:
    AB: 407		1,672
    RBI: 177	295
    BB: 139		334
    K: 134		557
    AVG: .236	.249
    OBP: .434	.380
    SLG: .538	.533
    OPS: .972	.913
    Okay, what do we see?

    First of all, when there are RISP, Adam gets an RBI every 2.3 AB (177/407). Overall, it takes him 5.7 AB to get an RBI (295/1,672). That means that the people who say he only drives in himself are dead wrong.

    Secondly, we see that with RISP, Dunn gets a walk every 2.9 AB (139/407). Overall it takes him 5.0 AB to work a walk (334/1,672). That means Adam is getting pitched around whenever there are RISP, which should surprise no one. It also shows that Adam has the discipline to take a base when one is offered.

    Thirdly, and this is very interesting, when there are RISP, Adam strikes out once every 3.0 AB (134/407). Overall, Adam strikes out once every (wait for it) 3.0 AB (557/1,672). Look at that again. There’s no change at all in the rate. He’s not choking. He’s not flailing. And the results speak for themselves in the final four lines above. Or at least they should. With RISP, he adds 54 points to his OBP and 59 points to his OPS.
    Somebody sticky this post and get a copy to Marty, stat. Nice one, Redsland.
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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Somebody sticky this post and get a copy to Marty, stat. Nice one, Redsland.
    Email it to him....he won't get it until next weekend, but still...

    mtj@redsonradio.com

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    I was referring specifically to called third strikes, as opposed to a swinging third strike. I don't know if there is any way to show that? None that I know of.
    Yeah, I know you were; but like you, I couldn't find anything that specific. It would be interesting to know, though.
    Makes all the routine posts.

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Email it to him....he won't get it until next weekend, but still...

    mtj@redsonradio.com
    Hey, if Redsland gives me permission, I'll do it. I promise to be civil; after all, I grew up listening to the guy. I'd be very interested in his response.
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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    Hey, if Redsland gives me permission, I'll do it. I promise to be civil; after all, I grew up listening to the guy. I'd be very interested in his response.
    Give him your opinion, respectfully, and keep it clean

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    Re: An Adam Dunn did you know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Give him your opinion, respectfully, and keep it clean
    Will do.
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