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    6-1-07 update

    Top Reds Prospects - stock report (non-pitcher)

    1. Jay Bruce-OF (Hi A) .965 OPS.....age: 20.2....Stock: CAN IT GET HIGHER?....ETA: Sometime in 2008
    2. Joey Votto-1B (AAA) .930 OPS.....age: 23.8....Stock: RISING....ETA: Any day
    3. Chris Valaika-2B/3B (Low A) .875 OPS.....age: 21.10....Stock: holding steady....ETA: Sept-2008
    4. Drew Stubbs-OF (Low A) .789 OPS.....age: 22.7....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2009
    5. Juan Francisco-3B (Low A) .835 OPS.....age: 20.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2010
    6. Adam Rosales-UTIL (Hi A) .885 OPS.....age: 24.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)
    7. Justin Turner-OF (Low A) .866 OPS....age: 22.6....Stock: slowly rising....ETA: 2009/2010
    8. Paul Janish-SS (AA) .753 OPS.....age: 24.8....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)
    9. Drew Anderson-OF (AA) .812 OPS....age: 24.4....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2009 (or never)
    10. Cody Strait-OF (AA) .714 OPS.....age: 24.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)

    Coming on strong (may make next list):
    Daniel Dorn...22.10 (.754 OPS - Hi A, 1.030 OPS in 246 PA's at Billings in '06), Chris Heisey...22.6 (.744 OPS - Low A, .762 OPS in 275 PA's at Billings in '06).



    Position breakdown:

    1B
    1. Joey Votto (AAA) .930 OPS.....age: 23.8....My adopted prospect is now crushing AAA pitching (as predicted) and should join the big club soon. Prior to 2007, career minor league OPS of .861 (2057 AB's).
    2. Logan Parker (Low A) .589 OPS....age: 22.10....Needs a strong year in Dayton and a move up to Sarasota. Seems to be struggling big time, at the moment. Ripped it up in his first year last year in rookie ball (Billings) to the tune of a .949 OPS in 277 PA's.
    Summary: Not much, but it doesn't take much to move a bat here anyway. Not a position of concern. How about drafting D'Allesio again with one of the 5 early picks?

    2B
    1. Chris Valaika (Low A) .875 OPS.....age: 21.10....Can rake. Is not a SS. How about 2B or 3B? Either way, he heads up both positions due to his stick. Bat has cooled a tad the past few weeks. OPS of .907 in 307 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    2. Justin Turner (Low-A) .866 OPS.....age: 22.6...."Red" is on fire and moved into top 10 list. Also now ahead of Griffin and Anderson on 2B list. OPS of .922 in 261 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    3. Drew Anderson (AA) .812 OPS.....age: 24.4....At 24 in AA and with B. Phillips firmly entrenched with the big club for a few more years, there's probably not too much of a future. AAAA ceiling. Now heating up. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .729 (1118 AB's).
    4. Michael Griffin (Hi-A) .699 OPS.....age: 23.8....Don't know if there is a difference between he and Anderson, other than being at a lower level (although a year younger). Prior to 2007, career OPS of .689 (589 AB's).
    Summary: Where will Valaika end up? 3B or 2B? If he's a 2-bagger, well, a decision will have to be made in Cincy by 2009. B. Phillips may have priced himself out of town by then anyway.

    SS
    1. Paul Janish (AA) .753 OPS.....age: 24.8....Good glove. Juan Castro-like ceiling. Will he ever try stepping onto the mound? Is his bat finally catching up to his glove? Prior to 2007, career OPS of .789 (861 AB's)
    Summary: Ouch. Hopefully we can develop a SS in Latin America or make it a priority in the draft. Who knows, maybe Gonzo can keep it up into his mid-30's.

    3B
    1. Chris Valaika (Low A) .875 OPS.....age: 21.10...Can he play 3B? Question is, with EE's maturity, Francisco's emergence, and probable 3B taken in the 1st round of this year's draft, does it matter? Probably a 2-bagger.
    2. Juan Francisco (Low A) .835 OPS.....age: 20.0....First year in the system. Possibly the Johnny Cueto Latin American feel good story of 2007. Exciting future.
    3. Adam Rosales (Hi A) .919 OPS.....age: 24.0....This really needs to be his year to have any shot. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .823 (618 AB's).
    Summary: See summary of 2B and replace Phillips with EE. Maybe Francisco makes this 2B/3B decision easier as well.


    OF
    1. Jay Bruce (Hi A) .1.048 OPS.....age: 20.2....What can I say? This kid is all dat. Prepare for his arrival. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .857 (636 AB's).
    2. Drew Stubbs (Low A) .785 OPS.....age: 22.8....I'm a tad skeptical about the bat, but he's got a bit of everything else that will give him the opportunity. Grady Sizemore-lite ceiling. Only put up an OPS of .768 in 251 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings). Must cut down on the K's.
    3. Cody Strait (AA) .714 OPS.....age: 24.0. Rated ahead of Dickerson based on age only. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .743 (1181 AB's).
    4. Chris Dickerson (AAA) .676 OPS (AA), .673 (AAA).....age: 25.2....Recently promoted to AAA and starting to come around. Not great, but probably better than Norris Hopper, so has hope. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .759 (1385 AB's).
    5. Daniel Dorn (Hi A) .754 OPS....age: 22.10....After slow start, tore it up in May. Lead team with OPS of 1.030 in 246 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    6. Chris Heisey (Low A) .744 OPS....age: 22.6....OPS of .762 in 275 PA's last year in hitter-friendly Pioneer League (Billings). Between last year and this year, has pretty much mirrored Stubbs at the plate.
    Summary: If Stubbs is the real deal, an OF of Hamilton, Bruce, and Stubbs is looking pretty good by 2008-2009.

    C
    1. Craig Tatum (Hi A) .735 OPS.....age: 24.1....His glove buys him some time. If something better comes along in the meantime, so long. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .700 (620 AB's).
    2. Eddy Rodriguez (Low A)....681 OPS....age: 21.6....Pretty much first action and only has 90+ PA's so far. Got a late start and received only 20 PA's in Gulf Coast (Rookie) League last year out of U. of Miami.
    Summary: Will have to do some homework, but I see nothing right now that excites me. We'll see how Long and Rodriquez do and then have an idea. I think the position should be recognized early this June.

    updated: 6-1-07
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    Not a big deal, but it's Chris Heisey. Might want to edit your list (awesome list, I should add).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    Not a big deal, but it's Chris Heisey. Might want to edit your list (awesome list, I should add).
    Done.

    Thank you.

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    I love these updates Buckeye. My two cents:

    The Reds really only have one guy now who projects as a major league OF in Bruce. Stubbs is still very iffy IMO. Valaika and Rosales look a lot like guys that could move into a Ryan Freel type role. A little 2B, a little 3B and probably some OF. Not trying to "brand" these guys as bench players but more seeing how they'll fit in during a future that looks like it only has openings at C and SS. Having a couple guys like that on the bench would be a big plus for a team that wants to contend in 2009 to 2011 time frame. I think the lack of quality OF help beyond Bruce might get these guys some time out there. Rosales probably will get time sooner than Valaika given his age. It would set them up for the supersub role that seems to be a necessity these days.
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    6-8-07 update

    Top Reds Prospects - stock report (non-pitcher)

    1. Jay Bruce-OF (Hi A) .959 OPS.....age: 20.2....Stock: CAN IT GET HIGHER?....ETA: Sometime in 2008
    2. Joey Votto-1B (AAA) .903 OPS.....age: 23.8....Stock: RISING....ETA: Any day
    3. Chris Valaika-2B/3B (Low A) .863 OPS.....age: 21.10....Stock: holding steady....ETA: Sept-2008
    4. Juan Francisco-3B (Low A) .822 OPS.....age: 20.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2010
    5. Drew Stubbs-OF (Low A) .745 OPS.....age: 22.7....Stock: slight decline....ETA: 2009
    6. Adam Rosales-UTIL (Hi A) .924 OPS.....age: 24.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)
    7. Justin Turner-OF (Low A) .845 OPS....age: 22.6....Stock: slowly rising....ETA: 2009/2010
    8. Paul Janish-SS (AA) .752 OPS.....age: 24.8....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)
    9. Drew Anderson-OF (AA) .803 OPS....age: 24.4....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2009 (or never)
    10. Cody Strait-OF (AA) .698 OPS.....age: 24.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)

    Coming on strong (may make next list):
    Daniel Dorn...22.10 (.768 OPS - Hi A, 1.030 OPS in 246 PA's at Billings in '06), Chris Heisey...22.6 (.758 OPS - Low A, .762 OPS in 275 PA's at Billings in '06).



    Position breakdown:

    1B
    1. Joey Votto (AAA) .903 OPS.....age: 23.8....My 2006 adopted prospect is now crushing AAA pitching (as predicted) and should join the big club soon. Prior to 2007, career minor league OPS of .861 (2057 AB's).
    2. Logan Parker (Low A) .632 OPS....age: 22.10....Needs a strong year in Dayton and a move up to Sarasota. Seems to be struggling big time, at the moment. Ripped it up in his first year (last year) in rookie ball (Billings) to the tune of a .949 OPS in 277 PA's.
    Summary: Not much, but it doesn't take much to move a bat here anyway. Not a position of concern. How about drafting D'Allesio again with one of the 5 early picks?

    2B
    1. Chris Valaika (Low A) .863 OPS.....age: 21.10....Can rake. Is not a SS. How about 2B or 3B? Either way, he heads up both positions due to his stick. Bat has cooled a tad the past few weeks. OPS of .907 in 307 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    2. Justin Turner (Low A) .845 OPS.....age: 22.6...."Red" is on fire and moved into top 10 list. Also now ahead of Griffin and Anderson on 2B list. OPS of .922 in 261 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    3. Drew Anderson (AA) .803 OPS.....age: 24.4....At 24 in AA and with B. Phillips firmly entrenched with the big club for a few more years, there's probably not too much of a future. AAAA ceiling. Now heating up. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .729 (1118 AB's).
    4. Michael Griffin (Hi-A) .732 OPS.....age: 23.8....Don't know if there is a difference between he and Anderson, other than being at a lower level (although a year younger). Prior to 2007, career OPS of .689 (589 AB's).
    Summary: Where will Valaika end up? 3B or 2B? If he's a 2-bagger, well, a decision will have to be made in Cincy by 2009. B. Phillips may have priced himself out of town by then anyway.

    SS
    1. Paul Janish (AA) .752 OPS.....age: 24.8....Good glove. Juan Castro-like ceiling. Will he ever try stepping onto the mound? Is his bat finally catching up to his glove? Prior to 2007, career OPS of .789 (861 AB's)
    Summary: Ouch. Hopefully we can develop a SS in Latin America or make it a priority in the draft. Who knows, maybe Gonzo can keep it up into his mid-30's.

    3B
    1. Chris Valaika (Low A) .863 OPS.....age: 21.10...Can he play 3B? Question is, with EE's maturity, Francisco's emergence, and probable 3B taken in the 1st round of this year's draft, does it matter? Probably a 2-bagger.
    2. Juan Francisco (Low A) .822 OPS.....age: 20.0....First year in the system. Possibly the Johnny Cueto Latin American feel good story of 2007. Exciting future.
    3. Adam Rosales (Hi A) .924 OPS.....age: 24.0....This really needs to be his year to have any shot. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .823 (618 AB's).
    Summary: See summary of 2B and replace Phillips with EE. Maybe Francisco makes this 2B/3B decision easier as well.


    OF
    1. Jay Bruce (Hi A) .959 OPS.....age: 20.2....What can I say? This kid is all dat. Prepare for his arrival. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .857 (636 AB's).
    2. Drew Stubbs (Low A) .745 OPS.....age: 22.8....I'm a tad skeptical about the bat, but he's got a bit of everything else that will give him the opportunity. Grady Sizemore-lite ceiling. Only put up an OPS of .768 in 251 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings). Must cut down on the K's.
    3. Cody Strait (AA) .698 OPS.....age: 24.0. Rated ahead of Dickerson based on age only. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .743 (1181 AB's).
    4. Chris Dickerson (AAA) .676 OPS (AA), .730 (AAA).....age: 25.2....Recently promoted to AAA and starting to come around. Not great, but probably better than Norris Hopper, so has hope. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .759 (1385 AB's).
    5. Daniel Dorn (Hi A) .768 OPS....age: 22.10....After slow start, tore it up in May. Lead team with OPS of 1.030 in 246 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    6. Chris Heisey (Low A) .758 OPS....age: 22.6....OPS of .762 in 275 PA's last year in hitter-friendly Pioneer League (Billings). Between last year and this year, has pretty much mirrored Stubbs at the plate.
    6. B.J. Szymanski (Hi A) .745 OPS....age: 24.8....Makes first appearance on list. Starting to hit the ball.
    Summary: If Stubbs is the real deal, an OF of Hamilton, Bruce, and Stubbs is looking pretty good by 2008-2009.

    C
    1. Craig Tatum (Hi A) .747 OPS.....age: 24.1....His glove buys him some time. If something better comes along in the meantime, so long. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .700 (620 AB's).
    2. Eddy Rodriguez (Low A)....658 OPS....age: 21.6....Pretty much first action and only has 90+ PA's so far. Got a late start and received only 20 PA's in Gulf Coast (Rookie) League last year out of U. of Miami.
    Summary: Will have to do some homework, but I see nothing right now that excites me. We'll see how Long and Rodriquez do and then have an idea. I think the position should be recognized early this June.

    updated: 6-8-07

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    As the new guys sign, this list will be altered.

    Example, if Mesoraco and Frazier were signed today, they would be #4 and #5 (ahead of Francisco and Stubbs), right out of the gate.

    As you can see, Stubbs has dropped behind Francisco. I can no longer look the other way regarding his struggles at the plate. It's been nearly a full year now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    As the new guys sign, this list will be altered.

    Example, if Mesoraco and Frazier were signed today, they would be #4 and #5 (ahead of Stubbs and Francisco), right out of the gate.
    I agree, although I think you may be selling Francisco short a little bit. If he's OPSing 100 pts higher than Stubbs at the same level and he's four years younger, I think its tough to rank him behind him solely because Stubbs was a former 1st round pick.

    If D-Mes and Frazier signed today, I would rank them like this:

    1) Bruce
    2) Votto
    3) Valaika
    4) Francisco
    5) Frazier
    6) Mesoraco
    7) Stubbs

    Mesoraco needs to make it to A-ball before he can crack the top 5 IMO. Otherwise you could put Justin Reed up there as well. Stubbs is beginning to get dangerously close to pre-June BJ Syzmanski territory (who ironically, is finally starting to hit).

    Edit: Nevermind, I see you now have Francisco ahead of Stubbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Mesoraco needs to make it to A-ball before he can crack the top 5 IMO. Otherwise you could put Justin Reed up there as well.
    The only reason I will put Mesoraco in the top 5 from the get go is the fact that he is a 1st rounder (#15). Reed went #114 overall in the 4th round last year and showed me very little in his first full season. He's still young and hopefully he has a breakout year, wherever they put him later on this summer, but I would never place a 4th rounder that high on this list from the beginning. Unless, of course, it was a signability issue that forced the kid into the 4th.

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    6-15-07 update

    Top Reds Prospects - stock report (non-pitcher)

    1. Jay Bruce-OF (Hi A) .961 OPS.....age: 20.2....Stock: RISING....ETA: Sometime in 2008
    2. Joey Votto-1B (AAA) .906 OPS.....age: 23.9....Stock: RISING....ETA: Any day now
    3. Chris Valaika-2B/3B (Low A) .858 OPS.....age: 21.10....Stock: slight decline....ETA: Sept-2008
    4. Juan Francisco-3B (Low A) .803 OPS.....age: 20.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2010
    5. Drew Stubbs-OF (Low A) .720 OPS.....age: 22.8....Stock: decline....ETA: 2009
    6. Adam Rosales-UTIL (Hi A) .883 OPS.....age: 24.1....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)
    7. Justin Turner-OF (Low A) .836 OPS....age: 22.7....Stock: slowly rising....ETA: 2009/2010
    8. Drew Anderson-OF (AA) .793 OPS....age: 24.4....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2009 (or never)
    9. Paul Janish-SS (AA) .709 OPS.....age: 24.8....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2008 (or never)
    10. Cody Strait-OF (AA) .694 OPS.....age: 24.0....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2010

    also:

    11. Chris Dickerson (AAA) .676 OPS (AA), .717 (AAA).....age: 25.2....ETA: Sept-2007
    12. Daniel Dorn-OF (Hi A) .768 ops....age: 22.11....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2010
    13. Craig Tatum-C (Hi A) .808 ops....age: 24.3....Stock: rising....ETA: 2009 (or never)
    14. Chris Heisey-OF (Low A) .732 OPS....age: 22.6....Stock: holding steady....ETA: 2010
    15. Michael Griffin-3B (Hi-A) .777 OPS.....age: 23.8....Stock: rising....ETA: 2010


    Devin Mesoraco and Todd Frazier will definitely pass Stubbs and join Bruce, Votto, Valaika, and Francisco at the top once signed. Zach Cozart, Brandon Waring, and Blake Stouffer will fall somewhere between Stubbs and the rest of the top 10 (once signed).





    Positional breakdown:

    1B
    1. Joey Votto (AAA) .906 OPS.....age: 23.9....My 2006 adopted prospect is now crushing AAA pitching (as predicted) and should join the big club soon. Prior to 2007, career minor league OPS of .861 (2057 AB's).
    2. Logan Parker (Low A) .703 OPS....age: 22.11....Needs a strong year in Dayton and a move up to Sarasota. Seems to be struggling big time, at the moment. Ripped it up in his first year (last year) in rookie ball (Billings) to the tune of a .949 OPS in 277 PA's.
    Summary: Not much, but it doesn't take much to move a bat here anyway. Francisco's glove could put him here as well. Blake Stouffer might not be your prototypical 1B, but he can hit. Once signed, he'll be on this list.

    2B
    1. Chris Valaika (Low A) .858 OPS.....age: 21.10....Can rake. Is not a SS. How about 2B or 3B? Either way, he heads up both positions due to his stick. Bat has cooled a tad the past few weeks. OPS of .907 in 307 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    2. Justin Turner (Low A) .836 OPS.....age: 22.6...."Red" is on fire and moved into top 10 list. Also now ahead of Anderson on 2B list. OPS of .922 in 261 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    3. Drew Anderson (AA) .793 OPS.....age: 24.4....At 24 in AA and with B. Phillips firmly entrenched with the big club for a few more years, there's probably not too much of a future. AAAA ceiling. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .729 (1118 AB's).
    Summary: Where will Valaika end up? 3B or 2B? If he's a 2-bagger, well, a decision will have to be made in Cincy by 2009. B. Phillips may have priced himself out of town by then anyway.

    SS
    1. Paul Janish (AA) .709 OPS.....age: 24.8....Good glove. Juan Castro-like ceiling. Will he ever try stepping onto the mound? Is his bat finally catching up to his glove? Prior to 2007, career OPS of .789 (861 AB's)
    Summary: Zach Cozart should be making a splash here soon. A solid tour of the Rookie league should push him past Janish to the top of a thin SS pool.

    3B
    1. Juan Francisco (Low A) .822 OPS.....age: 20.0....Possibly the Johnny Cueto Latin American feel good story of 2007. Exciting future.
    2. Michael Griffin (Hi-A) .777 OPS.....age: 23.8....Has been heating up of late. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .689 (589 AB's).
    Summary: Todd Frazier will leap everyone on this list once he has signed. Unless, he the 2nd coming of Cal Ripken, I see him at 3B as the 2nd coming of Scott Rolen. Brandon Waring will be up there as well.


    OF
    1. Jay Bruce (Hi A) .961 OPS.....age: 20.2....What can I say? This kid is all dat. Prepare for his arrival. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .857 (636 AB's).
    2. Drew Stubbs (Low A) .720 OPS.....age: 22.8....I'm a tad skeptical about the bat, but he's got a bit of everything else that will give him the opportunity. Grady Sizemore-lite ceiling. Only put up an OPS of .768 in 251 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    3. Cody Strait (AA) .694 OPS.....age: 24.0. Rated ahead of Dickerson based on age only. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .743 (1181 AB's).
    4. Chris Dickerson (AAA) .676 OPS (AA), .730 (AAA).....age: 25.2....Recently promoted to AAA and starting to come around. Not great, but probably better than Norris Hopper, so has hope. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .759 (1385 AB's).
    5. Daniel Dorn (Hi A) .768 OPS....age: 22.10....After slow start, tore it up in May. Lead team with OPS of 1.030 in 246 PA's last year in Rookie ball (Billings).
    6. Chris Heisey (Low A) .732 OPS....age: 22.6....OPS of .762 in 275 PA's last year in hitter-friendly Pioneer League (Billings). Between last year and this year, has pretty much mirrored Stubbs at the plate.
    6. B.J. Szymanski (Hi A) .729 OPS....age: 24.8....Makes first appearance on list. Starting to hit the ball.
    Summary: If Stubbs is the real deal, an OF of Hamilton, Bruce, and Stubbs is looking pretty good by 2008-2009.

    C
    1. Craig Tatum (Hi A) .808 OPS.....age: 24.1....His glove buys him some time. If something better comes along in the meantime, so long. Prior to 2007, career OPS of .700 (620 AB's). Currently crushing the ball. Perhaps the draft was a wakeup call.
    2. Eddy Rodriguez (Low A)....688 OPS....age: 21.6....Pretty much first action and only has 1000+ PA's so far. Got a late start and received only 20 PA's in Gulf Coast (Rookie) League last year out of U. of Miami.
    Summary: Mesoraco will soon head this list, but watch out for Tatum. what has gotten into him? Hanigan is tearing up AA as well, leading the team in OPS. All of a sudden, the Reds system has some decent-hitting catchers.

    updated: 6-15-07
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    Worth noting is that Tony Esquer went back on the DL for the Dragons, which means Eddy Rodriguez will get more ABs as the primary catcher. He really took off earlier this year when Esquer went on the DL the first time. Rodriguez seemed to respond to getting ABs every game and getting in a good groove. With him being the primary starter coupled with the pressure of a 1st round draft pick right behind him in the system, and just maybe it'll light a fire to drive him further...or he could completely tank under the pressure.

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    I think Janish and Strait can pretty much be dropped from the list (or at least the top 10). Guys who are >24 and not raking in AA are pretty much suspects in my book. That said, I'd give Tatum a little bump (although he does fit the above qualifications) simply because until Mesoraco signs, he's the only catcher in the entire system.

    My top 10 once D-Mes and Frazier sign would look like this:

    1. Bruce
    2. Votto (although he should be up anyday)
    3. Valaika
    4. Francisco
    5. Mesoraco
    6. Stubbs
    7. Frazier
    8. Turner
    9. Rosales
    10. Tatum

    As for Cozart, Soto, Stouffer, and Waring, I'd like to see them earn a spot.
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    Re: BuckeyeRedleg's Down on the Farm stock report (non-pitchers)

    Originally posted by Benihana
    That said, I'd give Tatum a little bump (although he does fit the above qualifications) simply because until Mesoraco signs, he's the only catcher in the entire system.
    I know he's not played at all this year and he still hasn't quite hit that well but Miguel Perez should be back sometime soon I think. I know he has lost some of his luster but I still think he's the best we got until Mesoraco signs. Just sayin' don't give up on him yet.
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    Re: BuckeyeRedleg's Down on the Farm stock report (non-pitchers)

    Summary: Zach Cozart should be making a splash here soon. A solid tour of the Rookie league should push him past Janish to the top of a thin SS pool.
    What exactly does Cozart have over Janish?

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    Re: BuckeyeRedleg's Down on the Farm stock report (non-pitchers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
    What exactly does Cozart have over Janish?
    3 years younger. Drafted higher. Higher ceiling.

    At 25, and not particularly tearing up AA, Janish is nearing the point of no longer even being considered a "prospect".

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    Re: BuckeyeRedleg's Down on the Farm stock report (non-pitchers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    I think Janish and Strait can pretty much be dropped from the list (or at least the top 10). Guys who are >24 and not raking in AA are pretty much suspects in my book.
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