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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    The Yankees will buy him then he'll get injured.
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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoncbus View Post
    The season is still young.
    In nearly 1500 at bats between 2004 and 2006, he averaged only 72 RBI per season. Are those seasons still young too?

    Over 1300 of these at bats came from the #3, 4, and 5 spot in the order.
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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    back to the point, though, Harden would be a huge pickup, but I doubt that he would be cheap, injured or not. It would be a risk, but if a fair deal could be made, you do it. He is a great pitcher.

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
    In nearly 1500 at bats between 2004 and 2006, he averaged only 72 RBI per season. Are those seasons still young too?
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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    He is batting .236 with runners in scoring position over the past three years....

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoncbus View Post
    He is batting .236 with runners in scoring position over the past three years....
    Isn't this thread about pitcher Rich Harden?
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    Re: Harden being shopped??

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    Isn't this thread about pitcher Rich Harden?
    Every thread is a good "Adam Dunn isn't a run producer" thread.

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    I don't mean to trash Dunn...just kind of ballooned.

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoncbus View Post
    Dunn's career numbers show he hits a lot of solo HRs - this year has been different and I hope it continues. When a guy hits 45 HRs and only has 90 RBIs -- you'd think he'd drive in more runs.

    I sure wish he could cut down on the K's.
    His career numbers show he hits homers with runners on base about as often as Lance Berkman (43% to 45%) and a lot more often than David Ortiz (37%).
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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    I would do Dunn for Harden in a heartbeat. That guy is an ace pitcher when healthy. It sure would be nice to have a rotation of Harden, Harang, Arroyo, Baily, Lohse.

    As for needing Casey I just dont get it. They dont need another left handed hitter in the lineup period. Not to mention that there is better value in both Conine and Hatty. Casey is gone please just deal with it.

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    If I'm Beane, I'd offer Harden and Mark Kotsay to the Reds for Dunn and Belisle.
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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Casey also hit .300 with runners in scoring position and struck out 34 times -- Dunn 134 times (with his .236 avg).

    I am not trashing Dunn but guys with similar HR totals have more RBIs - not to mention a much better RBI to K ratio.

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoncbus View Post
    Casey also hit .300 with runners in scoring position and struck out 34 times -- Dunn 134 times (with his .236 avg).
    And Dunn still outproduced him.

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    Re: Harden being shopped??

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    If I'm Beane, I'd offer Harden and Mark Kotsay to the Reds for Dunn and Belisle.

    I'm not sure the salary works for Beane, but if I'm the Reds, I'd think about it.

    For 2007 Only

    Dunn 10.5 Million
    Belisle 390 K

    Harden 2 Million
    Kotsay 7 Million

    The kicker comes with Dunn's option and impending free agency and Belisle's arbitration. Plus Harden's a fixed cost until after 2009. He'l make 4.5 million next year and has a 7 million dollar club option for 2009. I'd think Beane will trade him next year, not now.
    Last edited by rotnoid; 05-01-2007 at 03:58 PM.
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