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    Where the Reds do well...

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    Home Runs=47 (1st)
    Runs=169 (5th)
    Triples = 11 (2nd)
    Total Bases = 518 (3rd)
    OPS = .770 (6th)
    Starters' ERA= 3.87 (6th)
    Starters' Strikeouts= 165 (2nd)
    Starters' Walks = 55 (1st, lowest given up)

    Why is it up to the players they have now as Fay states? It's clear the bullpen is what keeps the Reds out of contention--and when your problems are that narrowly specific it's the FO job to fix it. It's a problem that can be targeted...
    "Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    So the offense is good and the pitching is bad, or part of it anyway. Haven't we been here before?

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    So the offense is good and the pitching is bad, or part of it anyway. Haven't we been here before?
    The starting pitching is better than it has been in a looooonnnnng time. That is reason for great optimism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    The starting pitching is better than it has been in a looooonnnnng time. That is reason for great optimism.
    And dispite the wailing and ganshing of teath, the offense has produced fairly well thus far. There's PLENTY of room for improvement, but it hasn't been the disaster folks have said it would be after Wayne "gutted" it.
    a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude.

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    last place 10 games out, what noun would you characterize the season as

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    And dispite the wailing and ganshing of teath, the offense has produced fairly well thus far. There's PLENTY of room for improvement, but it hasn't been the disaster folks have said it would be after Wayne "gutted" it.
    It's funny, isn't it? Wayne has supposedly "gutted" the offense and "improved" the bullpen since last summer. But here we sit with an above average offense and one of the worst bullpens in baseball.

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by redsupport View Post
    last place 10 games out, what noun would you characterize the season as
    Indigestion?

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    So the offense is good and the pitching is bad, or part of it anyway. Haven't we been here before?
    Actually the point is, the offense is excellent, and the starting pitching is excellent--we're not dealing with team-wide mediocrity or malaise. The Reds have one aspect of their game that is a horror, and that is the bullpen. The Reds problems are fixable, and if the bullpen problem were to be fixed, the Reds still have a shot to contend this year.
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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    Actually the point is, the offense is excellent, and the starting pitching is excellent--we're not dealing with team-wide mediocrity or malaise. The Reds have one aspect of their game that is a horror, and that is the bullpen. The Reds problems are fixable, and if the bullpen problem were to be fixed, the Reds still have a shot to contend this year.
    Sure, the bullpen is fixable but hasn't Wayne been fixing it for a year now?

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Sure, the bullpen is fixable but hasn't Wayne been fixing it for a year now?
    Yep. Slow goin' ain't it? Question: who did Atlanta get that the Reds didn't?
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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    Yep. Slow goin' ain't it? Question: who did Atlanta get that the Reds didn't?
    Rafael Soriano?

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    The Braces got Wickman, Sorian and Gonzalez.

    Wickman is injured.

    It cost them a real good prospect (for Wickman), and Laroach and Ramirez.

    The Reds likely didn't have the depth to make these trades.

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    Re: Where the Reds do well...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    NL

    Home Runs=47 (1st)
    Runs=169 (5th)
    Triples = 11 (2nd)
    Total Bases = 518 (3rd)
    OPS = .770 (6th)
    Starters' ERA= 3.87 (6th)
    Starters' Strikeouts= 165 (2nd)
    Starters' Walks = 55 (1st, lowest given up)

    Why is it up to the players they have now as Fay states? It's clear the bullpen is what keeps the Reds out of contention--and when your problems are that narrowly specific it's the FO job to fix it. It's a problem that can be targeted...
    And that's all pretty much without any production from 3rd base. And I fully expect for Edwin to get it together and be back on the big club and hitting in less than a month.


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