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    Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

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    NEW YORK -- As Barry Bonds nears his record 756th home run, he's stockpiling quite a collection of souvenirs -- bats, balls, helmets and spikes, pieces of baseball history perfectly suited for the Hall of Fame.

    Whether he'll donate any of them to Cooperstown, however, is in doubt.

    "I'm not worried about the Hall," the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. "I take care of me."

    No wonder those at the museum are getting concerned, especially with Bonds only 10 homers shy of breaking Hank Aaron's career mark.

    "There's uncertainty," Hall vice president Jeff Idelson acknowledged.

    Around 35,000 artifacts are shown and stored at the shrine, and about a dozen pertain to Bonds.

    There is a bat from his rookie year and cleats from him becoming the first player in the 400-homer/400-steal club. Unsolicited, he sent the bat and ball from his 2,000th hit. A batting practice bat from the 2002 World Series was the last thing Bonds provided.

    "Doesn't everybody have the right to decide to do it or not do it?" he said last week.

    The most prized items, the ones that fans would really want to see, are missing.

    Nothing directly from Bonds to highlight his 500th home run. Ditto for homers 714 and 715, when he tied and passed Babe Ruth. Same for anything tied to him topping Mark McGwire's single-season total of 70.

    Hall president Dale Petroskey went to visit Bonds at spring training last year, and instead walked smack into his reality show. The Giants talked to Bonds this year, and hope he'll be in a giving mood as the big moment comes and goes.

    So far, Bonds has not indicated he intends to share any Aaron-related memorabilia.

    A Hall representative plans to follow Bonds once he gets within a few home runs of Aaron's 755. Idelson has collected treasures for Cooperstown for more than a dozen years.

    "Barry is very cognizant of his place in baseball history and we'll try to work closely with him to assure him that how this milestone is represented meets his expectations and ours," Idelson said.

    "You need artifacts from the player to do that," he said. "A cap, bat or jersey, anything can tie a visitor to a specific event."

    Aaron, who has said he will not attend the record-breaker, is well-documented at the Hall. There are 40 assorted items from his career; Ruth is remembered with more than 30.

    The Hall does have the home plate from Bonds' 714th homer and first base and the lineup card from No. 715 -- those came from ballparks, not him.

    Bonds has been generous with teammates and opponents. He recently signed a guitar that Giants pitcher Barry Zito gave to charity and autographed a bat for Houston's Craig Biggio. He's also given some of his own things to charity.

    Bonds is careful with personal items related to his home run pursuit. He makes certain that hats, jerseys and other things he wears are authenticated, and he keeps them in a warehouse.

    He marks them, he said, "so people don't steal my stuff." By his count, he's already able to take care of his next three-plus generations.

    Whether that memorabilia shows up on his personal Web site or in Cooperstown remains to be seen. He opted out of Major League Baseball's licensing agreement before the 2004 season, and some of his gear is auctioned off on MLB's Web site -- on Monday, bidding topped $10,000 for a Bonds-signed Giants jersey.

    Also to be determined is whether Bonds himself is inducted into the Hall. If he does make it, that could be his first trip to the red-bricked building on Main Street.

    Bonds becomes eligible for election five years after his final game, and there's no telling how steroid allegations will affect his vote total.

    The Hall is independent of MLB and the word "steroid" does not appear inside the shrine.

    "There's not a lot you can say about it," Idelson said. "As the story plays out, we'll address it."

    Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
    I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I think it might just be another reporter trying to get more people to hate Bonds. I also don't feel as if Bonds is required to donate anything to the Hall of Fame.

    OTOH, comments like "I take care of me" are a little rediculous and a slap in the face of history, IMHO. That line could have very well been taken out of context though. Being reported on ESPN, I wouldn't doubt that's the case.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    This really doesn't come as a shock
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    ESPN sure does love them some Barry.

    For some reason I can see Barry suing the fan who catches number 756 for rights to the ball.
    What if this wasn't a rhetorical question?

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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Quote Originally Posted by paintmered View Post
    ESPN sure does love them some Barry.

    For some reason I can see Barry suing the fan who catches number 756 for rights to the ball.
    That would be a fitting end to his chase for the record.
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    Barry needs to hoard his assets for the inevitability of future litigation.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Quote Originally Posted by StillFunkyB View Post
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    I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I think it might just be another reporter trying to get more people to hate Bonds. I also don't feel as if Bonds is required to donate anything to the Hall of Fame.

    OTOH, comments like "I take care of me" are a little rediculous and a slap in the face of history, IMHO. That line could have very well been taken out of context though. Being reported on ESPN, I wouldn't doubt that's the case.
    Here's how I feel about this one: Bonds can continue his selfish, 'me, me, me' attitude for all he wants as far as I'm concerned. If he doesn't recognize that baseball has given him anything and everything he has obtained in life then he can go live in those warehouses with his stored hats, bats and whatever.

    If I ever get to Cooperstown I'll be looking for stuff from the true hero's of this game that I love so much. The Babe, Aaron, Musial, Williams, Bench and so on. Barry can live in his own little pathetic world---he's never been a hero of mine.

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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Quote Originally Posted by remdog View Post
    Here's how I feel about this one: Bonds can continue his selfish, 'me, me, me' attitude for all he wants as far as I'm concerned. If he doesn't recognize that baseball has given him anything and everything he has obtained in life then he can go live in those warehouses with his stored hats, bats and whatever.

    If I ever get to Cooperstown I'll be looking for stuff from the true hero's of this game that I love so much. The Babe, Aaron, Musial, Williams, Bench and so on. Barry can live in his own little pathetic world---he's never been a hero of mine.

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    I think most people outside of San Francisco feel about the same Rem.

    I just got the feeling that the author here is reaching, and took some quotes out of context.

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    Barry Bonds does not "have" to donate anything to the Hall of Fame. He has every "right" to "take care of me."
    However, no player has a "right" to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
    No player has a "right" to expect to receive cheers and respect from fans.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Bonds isn't stupid. He knows how the public feels about him. And he doesn't care.

    He doesn't care how his fellow players feel about him either.

    He's got enough love for himself to make up for it.

    The Scarlet Letter will never fade from his massive forehead.

    What a shame, I guess. What a tremendous talent. Maybe the greatest offensive player in history.

    I still have to admire his talent, and the most devestating stroke ever seen. But I don't feel any need at all to admire any other aspect of his personality. Just as his talent is a beautiful thing to a baseball fan, his attitude and actions are just as repulsive as a man.

    And he couldn't care less how I feel about either.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Does discussing Barry Bonds here violate the ban on religious discussions? Evidently Barry worships himself as if he was divine.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Will trade this space for a #1 starter.

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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Hm. So, he is collecting his own artifacts, eh?
    Next step: Shoe boxes of his toenail clippings and jars of urine.


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    If people are of the mind that this record is tainted and MLB and the fans shouldn't do anything to celebrate it, I don't see why they would have a problem with this.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    I'm apathetic about the whole thing. The whole Bonds drama has been talked about so much that I now feel about it the same as I do Terrell Owens, "Desparate Housewives" or "Grey's Anatomy," . . . Something else on TV that I can ignore.
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    Re: Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    If people are of the mind that this record is tainted and MLB and the fans shouldn't do anything to celebrate it, I don't see why they would have a problem with this.
    I have no problem with it. Like was said above, he can take all of his bats, gloves, etc and horde them up in a warehouse somewhere and disappear for all I care. What a despicable human being this guy is. And really I don't just mean the steroid issue, I'm talking his whole body of work.


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