I know its a little early to give up but we are pretty far back. So if I was wayne I would use the rest of this year to prepare for next. Move Hatte and Conine and put Votto at first. Put Bailey in the rotation. Bring up Jay Bruce as quick as you can, maybe around the beginning of August. Try to trade Junior, weathers, and anyone over 32. So at the end of the year we have the worst record in baseball, which does mean we get the first draft pick, in which we should take the most polished and ready college pitcher who can hopefully be ready to help by the spring of 09. But even though we would get killed the rest of this year our young players would have a few months under there belt, which would hopefully help them to be ready to fully contribute next year. If we could clear out Griffeys salary and some others we would have some money to pick up some free agents who could help us go for it next year. I hate to give up already but I would rather lose now and win next year then try to win this year and not making the division and not being ready to win next year either.