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    6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Starting Lineups:

    Reds (28 - 44)
    6th in NL Central
    Athletics (38 - 32)
    2nd in AL West

    Starting Lineup

    Name AVG HR RBI SB
    1. S Hatteberg, 1B .297 7 23 0
    2. B Phillips, 2B .275 11 34 15
    3. K Griffey Jr., DH .290 19 44 2
    4. A Dunn, LF .267 19 46 7
    5. E Encarnacion, 3B .271 4 29 2
    6. J Hamilton, CF .261 9 20 3
    7. A Gonzalez, SS .265 12 32 0
    8. D Ross, C .195 9 23 0
    9. N Hopper, RF .266 0 1 5

    Starting Lineup

    Name AVG HR RBI SB
    1. M Ellis, 2B .265 7 37 6
    2. M Kotsay, CF .254 1 7 0
    3. N Swisher, 1B .291 10 40 1
    4. E Chavez, 3B .241 12 34 3
    5. M Bradley, RF .306 2 7 2
    6. J Cust, DH .267 9 25 0
    7. S Stewart, LF .271 2 19 6
    8. B Crosby, SS .236 6 28 6
    9. J Kendall, C .225 1 20 3

    Starting Pitcher
    Name W L ERA* WHIP K
    M Belisle 5 5 4.95 1.35 60

    Starting Pitcher
    Name W L ERA* WHIP K
    D Haren 8 2 1.64 0.88 84
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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Matt Belisle vs Dan Haren.

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    I like this lineup. Griffey basically gets two days off (DH today and travel day tomorrow), and Hopper is hitting in the #9 spot, which is where he should be.
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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Do the Reds have the slowest leadoff hitter in baseball? Not that I'm complaining. He's getting on base and that's what matters most.

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    This is the lineup I wanted Monday night with the given personnel playing. If Hopper is in the outfield, bat him at the bottom of the order.

    I'm also wondering with Hopper's .661 OPS now this season if the Hopper Bandwagon is going up in flames too.

    BTW, Dan Haren since Oakland acquired him from St. Louis ...

    544 innings
    64 home runs (1.06 HR/9)
    423 strikeouts (7.00 K/9)
    122 walks (2.02 BB/9)
    3.47 K/BB

    3.85 DIPS ERA
    3.49 actual ERA

    Thank you, Billy Beane, for robbing the Cardinals and stealing Dan Haren from them. I'm not at all disappointed that Haren isn't in the St. Louis rotation.
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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Matt Belisle vs Dan Haren.
    It may not matter who the Reds run out there offensively....

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    I'm also wondering with Hopper's .661 OPS now this season if the Hopper Bandwagon is going up in flames too.
    Nope. He's Dunn's replacement, remember?

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    This is the lineup I wanted Monday night with the given personnel playing. If Hopper is in the outfield, bat him at the bottom of the order.

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    Now...your true motives.

    With Hopper, Hamilton and Dunn in the OF and Griffey as DH, well...

    Narron will be unlikely to switch Dunn out in the late innings (he'd lose the DH).

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    Now...your true motives.

    With Hopper, Hamilton and Dunn in the OF and Griffey as DH, well...

    Narron will be unlikely to switch Dunn out in the late innings (he'd lose the DH).

    Conine for Dunn :

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Conine for Dunn :
    I'm sure Castro could give em 3 solid innings in the OF as well.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    This is the lineup I wanted Monday night with the given personnel playing. If Hopper is in the outfield, bat him at the bottom of the order.

    I'm also wondering with Hopper's .661 OPS now this season if the Hopper Bandwagon is going up in flames too.
    I also wanted this batting order. With the DH being used, Hopper is still hitting ahead of Hatteberg-Phillips-Griffey, et.al., but he doesn't get the extra at-bat that he shouldn't have.

    I still like Hopper, but it's obvious to me that he is a backup outfielder--nothing wrong with that, but extended playing time (especially vs. RHP) will show why he is exactly that.


    A lineup that I was entertaining for today's game would have had Griffey in RF, Dunn at DH, and Conine in LF. That way, when Jerry wanted to make his defensive substitution in LF with Hopper entering the game, Dunn's bat would still be in the lineup. It would look something like this:

    Hatteberg 1b
    Phillips 2b
    Griffey rf
    Dunn dh
    Encarnacion 3b
    Hamilton cf
    Conine lf
    Gonzalez ss
    Ross c


    But overall, I like today's lineup.
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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    I'm sure Castro could give em 3 solid innings in the OF as well.
    Maybe we should stop giving them any ideas

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Dan Haren's ERA is just absolutely stupid.

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Dan Haren's ERA is just absolutely stupid.
    So are the rest of his numbers.

    1.64 ERA
    0.88 WHIP
    .520 OPSA

    Just to name a few.

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    Re: 6/20/07 - Reds vs. A's Game Thread

    1-2-3 first. Hatteberg grounder to short, Phillips and Griffey K. MLB Gameday has the enhanced pitch graphics on today, if you haven't seen it it's pretty cool. It tracks the arc of the pitch and gives you how much it breaks, as well as the speed. I don't see it used very often, don't know how they determine what games to do it in.


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