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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    But is Castellini planning on firing Krivsky?? I hav'nt heard any rumors on Krivsky on the hot seat.Are there rumors out there that i8m missing about Krivsky could be fired??
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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    If you look at the situation the Reds find themselves in, the owner has to be thinking about changes. The Reds are one game behind the horrible 1982 Reds and even the horrendous 2005 Reds. For all those who want to point out that Krivsky said it would take time, no one (even Castellini) thought the club would get this bad before it would get better.

    That said, and the fact that Jockety didn't deny the rumor means one thing to me...they've been talking, and why not. We have a manager who has never had a winning season (basically he's a rookie manager with only about 4 years under his belt), and a GM who's a rookie and was second fiddle to a unique winning organization. Cast has the chance to get a winning GM who he admires and a winning manager who he loves. It's a marriage made in heaven.

    Here's the best part. When Jockety makes a trade, you can look back at all the good things he's done in the past and say, "he knows what he's doing", and it will be plausible (unlike saying that about Krivsky, who has no track record). When Larussa makes one of those strange moves, it usually works so we'll have less stress on RZ. And we'll lose that North Carolina accent in the clubhouse (the one thing I liked about Jerry Narron--he sounded like me).

    Chance of it happening? 50-50. My gut feeling? It'll happen. Like I said it's just a gut feeling. No owner wants to go to meetings at 31-50 with Adam Dunn having close to a career year, Junior having a great year, and Josh Hamilton being the surprise of the year. Everyone would have to ask you "what's wrong" and you'd have to answer, "our GM really made some screwy moves". Nah, it's more than 50-50.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVPacman View Post
    But is Castellini planning on firing Krivsky?? I hav'nt heard any rumors on Krivsky on the hot seat.Are there rumors out there that i8m missing about Krivsky could be fired??
    Hey Pac. Did you hear any rumors from Castellini about firing Dan O'Brien? Nope. It just happened. Swiftly and without notice.

    Hide and watch.

    Nothing may happen, but my gut says it will. and it's a big gut these days!

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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    I don't know that I believe that Special K is out of the good graces of Mr. C...I think that perhaps this is what they expected last years team to do and probably this years team too.

    Truth is I don't really think that there will be a big dump of players and I think that the team will push through (muddle) this year and look to advance the team in the off season...that said, I could for sure see Junior, Hatte, Conine, Loshe, Arroyo, Weathers all moved. I would put an FAR outside chance of Dunn being moved...but not likely.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    I don't know that I believe that Special K is out of the good graces of Mr. C...I think that perhaps this is what they expected last years team to do and probably this years team too.

    Truth is I don't really think that there will be a big dump of players and I think that the team will push through (muddle) this year and look to advance the team in the off season...that said, I could for sure see Junior, Hatte, Conine, Loshe, Arroyo, Weathers all moved. I would put an FAR outside chance of Dunn being moved...but not likely.
    Even though I think the Jockety acquisition is 50-50, I agree that he is probably not out of the good graces of Castellini yet. But continued losing might put him there. I look for a change of managers first and then the big bomb at the end of the season.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Hey Pac. Did you hear any rumors from Castellini about firing Dan O'Brien? Nope. It just happened. Swiftly and without notice.

    Hide and watch.

    Nothing may happen, but my gut says it will. and it's a big gut these days!

    Very good point and no I did'nt any rumors... With all of this talk you can trust me I will be hiding and watching.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Even though I think the Jockety acquisition is 50-50, I agree that he is probably not out of the good graces of Castellini yet. But continued losing might put him there. I look for a change of managers first and then the big bomb at the end of the season.
    The problem with changing managers is that you know if Narron gets canned then it will be Bucky Dent.Hopefully that would be just for an interum basis??
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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    I am in love with Krivsky and don't want to see him go, but if Krivsky were fired to hire Jocketty, I would at least admire the person who made that decision because it shows he's very serious about winning.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVPacman View Post
    But is Castellini planning on firing Krivsky?? I hav'nt heard any rumors on Krivsky on the hot seat.Are there rumors out there that i8m missing about Krivsky could be fired??
    He may not be planning on it at the moment....but for the right situation he may.

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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Let's let the trading deadline come to pass before Wayne Krivsky is shown the door. He may make some deals that could save/cost him his job. If it's the later, I want him gone now, but there is no way we can know that yet.

    I think he has made some really good moves for the organization and some really bad ones as well. I would love to keep Krivsky in the front office as assistant GM at any rate. The guy knows how to identify young talent IMO. He just loves "old" talent way too much. He also over values bullpen fodder.
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    Re: Walt Jocketty anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Hey Pac. Did you hear any rumors from Castellini about firing Dan O'Brien? Nope. It just happened. Swiftly and without notice.
    Well he did fire him on the first business day after taking control of the Reds, no time for rumors to get going
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