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    No half measures, Walter RedEye's Avatar
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    Player A and Player B

    Last year, in what most considered a great year for him, Player A hit .274/.388/.569 with 41 HR, 118 RBI, and 18 SB. He was touted as one of the best all-around offensive players in the game and made $13,571,428 for his services.

    This year, Player B is on pace to hit .270/.359/.569 with 45 HR, 108 RBI, and 14 SB. He makes $ 10,500,000 this year and is due $13,500,000 in 2008. He has been routinely criticized for his strikeouts, lack of effort, and underachieving.

    My question is this: If Player B continues at his current level of offensive production, wouldn't he be well worth the salary he is due next year?

    Discuss.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    I have no idea who Player B is. Has he ever been discussed here before?
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    I have no idea who Player B is. Has he ever been discussed here before?
    This is an utterly hypothetical situation. Any resemblence to real-life players is unintentional.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Player B doesn't have enough sacrifice fly's to warrant $13 million.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    You forgot to mention that Player A was a GG CF and Player B was an iron glove LF.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    You forgot to mention that Player A was a GG CF and Player B was an iron glove LF.
    True dat. However, he's also older and more injury prone than Player B.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    My question is this: If Player B continues at his current level of offensive production, wouldn't he be well worth the salary he is due next year?

    Discuss.
    In all seriousness, I absolutely believe Player B would be well worth that salary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    In all seriousness, I absolutely believe Player B would be well worth that salary.
    I absolutely agree.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    In all seriousness, I absolutely believe Player B would be well worth that salary.
    Well if you're right we'll be flush with offers for player B and there'll be little talk of another team insisting that we pickup some of his $$ in a deal. In fact the trading partner will gladly extend his contract before the ink is dry on the trade.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Player A's 2007 salary = 11.7% of his team's overall salary

    Player B's 2007 salary = 15.1% of his team's overall salary

    I bring this up because it's my way of saying "it depends."

    Is Player B worth ~$13M on the open market as a free agent? Easily... Is he worth that to a team that is 20th in MLB in salary? Dunno.

    If the other corresponding pieces were in place for a playoff run, then certainly it would be worth it, and thus, Player B's salary would be closer to the 11% than the 15% range.
    When all is said and done more is said than done.

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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Andruw Jones could be compared to both player A and B.. And I know he is going to get a huge contract even though he has had a down year.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Andruw Jones could be compared to both player A and B.. And I know he is going to get a huge contract even though he has had a down year.
    I think Jones' year is more than "down" - it's full blown depression and may require counseling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    I think Jones' year is more than "down" - it's full blown depression and may require counseling!
    True.. But he has never hit for average.. he's a career .263 hitter. His power and defense have carried him. But the thing is he is going to get a nice sized contract.. one comparable to player A and player B.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    True.. But he has never hit for average.. he's a career .263 hitter. His power and defense have carried him. But the thing is he is going to get a nice sized contract.. one comparable to player A and player B.
    Which just makes both Player A and B look like better bargains IMO.
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    Re: Player A and Player B

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Andruw Jones could be compared to both player A and B.. And I know he is going to get a huge contract even though he has had a down year.
    Andruw Jones (whom we might call Player C) isn't nearly the all-around offensive force that the other two are. His OBP is consistently lower and he doesn't run anymore on the bases. Of course, I'm not sure how much longer either Player A or Player B will continue running either... but it is clear that Player C has stopped.
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